The Mad Scientist Top 25 Ranking Debate Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/26/2009
Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 12/25/2009 And right here, again, you show your complete lack of HD knowledge, which does not allow you to accurately discuss what does or does not make a player or team quote "Talented" and sure ratings do matter, somewhat but there is so much more then ratings to HD and if you think that ratings is all there is to it then why are you paying $13/mo for this game?

You skipped answering my question, how dare you?
Lol, shockingly, I never said or suggested that, so there's no reason to answer your question...know what my answer is?...I don't think that ratings are all that matter in HD....there.
12/26/2009 11:58 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 12/26/2009i've never seen a guy who has such a poor understanding of something argue so hard for it. you must think you have a good understanding of math or something, and that somehow gives you the background to weigh on a WIS ranking system. well, it does to some degree, but you also need to understand to a reasonable extent how the game is played. you say that 39% winning record of yours doesn't mean anything but that just shows how far you are from beginning to grasp the subject at hand
Conveniently forget the fact that I said the overall rating needs to be tweaked to be improved...because that's what you guys have done time and again. My win% has nothing to do with coming up with a SOS/ranking format for HD...you don't agree with me, I don't care, I'm not WRONG because of it.
12/26/2009 12:06 PM
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12/26/2009 12:10 PM
Numbers, while they can be powerful, aren't everything and can't tell the entire story. You need to understand that.
12/26/2009 12:10 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/26/2009
Quote: Originally posted by coach_billyg on 12/26/2009 i've never seen a guy who has such a poor understanding of something argue so hard for it. you must think you have a good understanding of math or something, and that somehow gives you the background to weigh on a WIS ranking system. well, it does to some degree, but you also need to understand to a reasonable extent how the game is played. you say that 39% winning record of yours doesn't mean anything but that just shows how far you are from beginning to grasp the subject at hand.

I agree, I think he believes sense you mean SINCE? he has been able to make a somewhat accurate real life college football rankings that that somehow puts him above everyone else here to make a ranking system for HD. I have the experience, so yes I have that on you all. I've thought about rankings and tested them more than you even looked at them, so of course I'm more credible than you all when it comes to rankings. The overall team rating SOS ISN'T THE ONLY FORMAT...you guys don't read the important stuff....

And as for the not believing you C, why would I? Like I said, I could give 2 *****....Zhawks doesn't like me/my ranking system...where's my noose?................ You have fought so hard yes I have and been so closed minded no I haven't with us disagreeing with you I have no doubt in my mind then when you make this formula and realize how completely flawed that it is you would fudge the numbers to try and prove us wrong. I can't take you seriously, because without even knowing me, you think I would do that. I can't change someone's mind whose mind is already made up. I'm a man and have fought you guys to the death...what makes you think I would stop now/then?
12/26/2009 12:11 PM
No it isn't anything personal in that respect. You have shown here that you care way more about being right then creating a good ranking system for HD, that is why I won't believe any numbers you show us.
12/26/2009 12:12 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/26/2009Numbers, while they can be powerful, aren't everything and can't tell the entire story. You need to understand that
I do understand that and I agree. Secondary factors help determine the outcomes of games as well, but they are SECONDARY, not PRIMARY. I never said perfect, I've always said viable...no ranking system is perfect.
12/26/2009 12:13 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/26/2009
They aren't measurable and that is why we play hd. If everything was measurable we wouldn't have a game at all
Why/how? That's a rather dumb statement...everything in a game can be measurable as long as there's randomness in the game engine you will have a game...simple or complex....more measurable, less measurable, or completely measurable, you'd still have a game.
12/26/2009 12:14 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/26/2009No it isn't anything personal in that respect. You have shown here that you care way more about being right then creating a good ranking system for HD, that is why I won't believe any numbers you show us. Lol ok...your approval still means nothing to me. If nobody believes that what I'm doing is "on the level" I'll still do it.
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