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Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.
lemme ask you about the kegerator

what is it, how does it work, how much does it cost

and in a 2 gallons of rolling rock for $10 world, how does it work for you
8/21/2018 1:24 PM (edited)
Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.
I've been drinking the **** out of Elysian Dayglow lately. It's great.
8/21/2018 12:55 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:46:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.
Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.
The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.
We are in a drug war and Mexico is the supplier. Israel is not at war with the Islamist squatters. The wall works great in Israel. You no not of what you speaketh. Ever been to Israel? It works fantastically.

Do you lock your front door at night or leave it open for anyone to walk in?

On a small scale and with many guards, walls can effectively stop movement, Jones said.

But Israel and the United States’ southern borders are significantly different.

The Israel-Egypt border fence is about 150 miles.

The U.S.-Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles.

Terrain conditions and number of agents needed to monitor the border are not comparable either, Jones said.

"Most of the Israeli fence goes through open, arid terrain. Easy to access, easy to build, easy to monitor with agents," Jones said.

The U.S.-Mexico border, on the other hand, includes very remote, mountainous terrain and spans the length of four states with cities closely intertwined with Mexico.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

Also I don't support open borders.

So now you changed your mind that the wall in Israel does work?
We'll go with that.
8/21/2018 12:56 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.
1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.
1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.
Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.
Give an alternatives or stop opining. What we have thus far is not working. What proof do we have that the wall will not work. If you are in Mexico would you be more or less inclined to come in legally, knowing that if you're caught you will be separated from your kids or if you're caught you'll be coddled?

8/21/2018 12:56 PM
Monitor VISAs better, for one.
8/21/2018 12:58 PM
Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:56:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.
Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.
The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.
We are in a drug war and Mexico is the supplier. Israel is not at war with the Islamist squatters. The wall works great in Israel. You no not of what you speaketh. Ever been to Israel? It works fantastically.

Do you lock your front door at night or leave it open for anyone to walk in?

On a small scale and with many guards, walls can effectively stop movement, Jones said.

But Israel and the United States’ southern borders are significantly different.

The Israel-Egypt border fence is about 150 miles.

The U.S.-Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles.

Terrain conditions and number of agents needed to monitor the border are not comparable either, Jones said.

"Most of the Israeli fence goes through open, arid terrain. Easy to access, easy to build, easy to monitor with agents," Jones said.

The U.S.-Mexico border, on the other hand, includes very remote, mountainous terrain and spans the length of four states with cities closely intertwined with Mexico.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

Also I don't support open borders.

So now you changed your mind that the wall in Israel does work?
We'll go with that.
You're unbelievable.
8/21/2018 12:58 PM
I looked it up and changed my opinion.
8/21/2018 1:02 PM
Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
I looked it up and changed my opinion.
So my say so was not enough? LOL
8/21/2018 1:02 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.
1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.
1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.
Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.
Give an alternatives or stop opining. What we have thus far is not working. What proof do we have that the wall will not work. If you are in Mexico would you be more or less inclined to come in legally, knowing that if you're caught you will be separated from your kids or if you're caught you'll be coddled?

You know that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are the ones who overstay their visas, right?

And the immigrants that cross the border illegally usually do so at busy ports of entry that already have walls/fences and guards, right?

Yeah, that's not the way punishment works. If you shoplift, would you be more or less inclined to shoplift, knowing that if you're caught, you'll be executed on the spot?
8/21/2018 1:04 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
I looked it up and changed my opinion.
So my say so was not enough? LOL
Lol. Anyway please respond to the latest iteration of my argument, if you wish.
8/21/2018 1:06 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:57:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.
1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.
1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.
Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.
Give an alternatives or stop opining. What we have thus far is not working. What proof do we have that the wall will not work. If you are in Mexico would you be more or less inclined to come in legally, knowing that if you're caught you will be separated from your kids or if you're caught you'll be coddled?

You know that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are the ones who overstay their visas, right?

And the immigrants that cross the border illegally usually do so at busy ports of entry that already have walls/fences and guards, right?

Yeah, that's not the way punishment works. If you shoplift, would you be more or less inclined to shoplift, knowing that if you're caught, you'll be executed on the spot?
#1) As I said the border agents want it. You don't because you want more voters. You have not sold me on how this is self serving for them. If anything it could cost them jobs.

#2) I have no idea. I just know that what is happening now is not working to my satisfaction.

#3) Execution is not the same as separation. Shoplifting is not as serious as sneaking into the country illegally IMO. If you shoplift with a kid in tow. When you are arrested the kid will be separted from you.

You have not provided alternative solutions. You just complain a lot.
8/21/2018 1:10 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.
So Bud Light it is. LOL.
I do sell Bud Light, but the odds of that are pretty low.
My fave is actually Modelo.
I sell that also. Killer beer. Just took over Bud Red for the 6th best selling beer in America.
8/21/2018 1:13 PM
Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.
So Bud Light it is. LOL.
I do sell Bud Light, but the odds of that are pretty low.
My fave is actually Modelo.
I sell that also. Killer beer. Just took over Bud Red for the 6th best selling beer in America.
I didn't even know. I stumbled on it and now it is my #1 choice. Thanks for the data.
8/21/2018 1:15 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.
1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.
1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.
Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.
Give an alternatives or stop opining. What we have thus far is not working. What proof do we have that the wall will not work. If you are in Mexico would you be more or less inclined to come in legally, knowing that if you're caught you will be separated from your kids or if you're caught you'll be coddled?

You know that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are the ones who overstay their visas, right?

And the immigrants that cross the border illegally usually do so at busy ports of entry that already have walls/fences and guards, right?

Yeah, that's not the way punishment works. If you shoplift, would you be more or less inclined to shoplift, knowing that if you're caught, you'll be executed on the spot?
#1) As I said the border agents want it. You don't because you want more voters. You have not sold me on how this is self serving for them. If anything it could cost them jobs.

#2) I have no idea. I just know that what is happening now is not working to my satisfaction.

#3) Execution is not the same as separation. Shoplifting is not as serious as sneaking into the country illegally IMO. If you shoplift with a kid in tow. When you are arrested the kid will be separted from you.

You have not provided alternative solutions. You just complain a lot.
1) Dummy, illegal immigrants can't vote. It's self serving for them to be in favor of proposals to spend money on border security, because their job is border security.

2) You have no idea, which is a running theme in all of your posts.

3) Way to miss the point. We don't punish people in exceptionally cruel ways for minor crimes.
8/21/2018 1:24 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 1:10:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.
1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.
1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.
Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.
Give an alternatives or stop opining. What we have thus far is not working. What proof do we have that the wall will not work. If you are in Mexico would you be more or less inclined to come in legally, knowing that if you're caught you will be separated from your kids or if you're caught you'll be coddled?

You know that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are the ones who overstay their visas, right?

And the immigrants that cross the border illegally usually do so at busy ports of entry that already have walls/fences and guards, right?

Yeah, that's not the way punishment works. If you shoplift, would you be more or less inclined to shoplift, knowing that if you're caught, you'll be executed on the spot?
#1) As I said the border agents want it. You don't because you want more voters. You have not sold me on how this is self serving for them. If anything it could cost them jobs.

#2) I have no idea. I just know that what is happening now is not working to my satisfaction.

#3) Execution is not the same as separation. Shoplifting is not as serious as sneaking into the country illegally IMO. If you shoplift with a kid in tow. When you are arrested the kid will be separted from you.

You have not provided alternative solutions. You just complain a lot.
1) Dummy, illegal immigrants can't vote. It's self serving for them to be in favor of proposals to spend money on border security, because their job is border security.

2) You have no idea, which is a running theme in all of your posts.

3) Way to miss the point. We don't punish people in exceptionally cruel ways for minor crimes.
so pot selling is no longer a federal crime
8/21/2018 1:29 PM
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