Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by bad_luck on 8/25/2017 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/25/2017 9:21:00 AM (view original):
The Paris Accord was bullshit. You know it, I know it.

The head of the FCC announced plans? OMG, THE HORROR!!! Get back to me when something happens.

I'll give you Mexico. Not so sure about the rest.

So how has Trump made your life worse in the last 7 months? Other than the hysterical, and constant, HE MIGHT DO SOMETHING!!!!! nonsense?
Look dude, you keep moving the goalposts.

First it was, he can't do anything bad because checks and balances.

Then, none of the other presidents did any of those things.

Then, well he won't actually do any of that stuff

Then, that stuff is bullshit, how has he actually impacted your life?

You went to the moy school of arguing. Trump can be a terrible president who causes real damage to the earth even if he hasn't directly impacted my personal life in the last 7 months.
Look, dude, I'm trying to figure out what he's done, or likely to do, that will cause MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE TO THE USA because that's what the lefties keep telling me.

So far, nothing. So, if you would, tell me what he's GOING TO DO that wrecks the USA.

You, and your kind, are turning him into some insane dictator who cannot be stopped. I just want to know what he's going to do.
8/25/2017 9:35 AM
I never said he was an insane dictator. I said he was an incompetent buffoon who ad libs foreign relations and doesn't actually understand any of the issues he pretends to care about. He's driven only by ego and publicity. That's a bad situation.
8/25/2017 9:46 AM
First, I agree with buffoon. His competency can be debated. I wouldn't mind seeing him go because I think he conducts himself poorly and that's not good for America. I'm not sure he can do any MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE!!!! but I certainly doubt his Presidency will be reviewed as "successful" in the history books. The right can't get anything done despite controlling Congress and the Presidency. I'm attributing that to Trump and a politician's reluctance to attach themselves to him.

But I'm equally sure that removing him from the equation doesn't do anything to better America. I'm equally sure the constant "REMOVE TRUMP!!!!" calls do not do anything to better America. Since he can't do any MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE!!!, maybe we're just better to let his Presidency runs it's course and learn a valuable lesson. When you vote a clown in as President, you get a clown as President.
8/25/2017 10:05 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/25/2017 9:46:00 AM (view original):
I never said he was an insane dictator. I said he was an incompetent buffoon who ad libs foreign relations and doesn't actually understand any of the issues he pretends to care about. He's driven only by ego and publicity. That's a bad situation.
How is he different from Obama or Bush in that regard?
8/25/2017 10:06 AM
Boris. You REALLY don't see a YUGE difference in ego size between Chump and W?????
Visit an optometrist.
8/25/2017 11:51 AM
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 11:51:00 AM (view original):
Boris. You REALLY don't see a YUGE difference in ego size between Chump and W?????
Visit an optometrist.
Nope. I truly do not. At least DT built a billion dollar financial empire. GW lived off his father's coat tails and stupidly got us into the Iraq war (I didn't vote for him btw). You may call him "Chump" but the man is a billionaire married to a super model and all of his kids turned out to be good kids as far as I can tell.
8/25/2017 2:06 PM
LOL! That's just nuts.

You do NOT KNOW he's a billionaire. He just says so...............
Anyone with some real cash (his Daddy gave him hundreds of millions!) can buy themselves another trophy wife. By all appearances she doesn't even like him. Marla Maples was trophy #2. Ivaka's momma #1.
And his kids???????? I won't touch on Ivanka....... I have no idea about her character....... I kinda suspect she might be a tad high maintenance but hey, who am I to judge....... she IS very pretty.

The two adult boys appear to be robot/morons who run around saying my Daddy's Donny.........
And Barron...........as I said, I won't go there.

Ever see the movie "The Omen"?
8/25/2017 2:23 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 8/25/2017 9:10:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
Any of the examples in the last paragraph are realistic.
So Bush had these same powers? Obama? I know you love you some Obama but what did Bush do, BY HIMSELF, that ****** up America?
So your thread has gone from Trump is the worst president ever to really...how bad could he be? Certainly no worse than Bush.
So you've resorted to asking question to answer questions? That's how I know you're backed into a corner and desperately want to change the direction of the thread.

Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
So Bush had these same powers? Obama? I know you love you some Obama but what did Bush do, BY HIMSELF, that ****** up America?
Like I already said, any of the three examples I gave are reasonably likely.

What difference does it make what Bush or Obama did?
No, they are not "reasonably likely". At least not in the mind of a somewhat sane person.

Bush was horrible according to most lefties. Did he **** up the environment? Kill net neutrality? Wreck foreign relations? Obama was horrible to most on the right? Did he do any of these things?
Trump appointed a head of the FCC who is openly hostile towards net neutrality. He repealed environmental regulations and pulled out of the Paris agreement. He hasn't staffed the state department to adequately levels and has relied on diplomacy-by-twitter.

Those things are already happening.
Are they?
Head of FCC has done what?
Paris accord was nothing more than "Yep, we'll do that" with no repercussions if you don't.
Which countries do we have a weaker relationship now? Please exclude NK.

Seriously, Chicken BLittle, the sky is not falling.
The Paris agreement was "yep we'll do that." And now WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

The head of the FCC has announced plans to eliminate title II classification. Maybe it won't happen, but it's reasonable to think it will.

We have worse relations with the 19 other countries in the G20. Especially Germany and France.

We have worse relations with Mexico.
Remember when Obama was busted for spying on Germany, France, and Spain? That was fun.
8/25/2017 3:07 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/25/2017 9:10:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 8/24/2017 5:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/24/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
What MAJOR IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE do you think Trump can do?

We've got this thing called "Checks and balances" in addition to THREE branches of government. Now I know the CRAZY left is yammering on about nuclear war but that's not real. That's just CRAZY left talk. So what horrible thing can Trump do?
You sound like someone who got the 6th grade explanation of how government works and nothing else. The executive branch has tons of autonomous power. Judicial appointments, agency directives, executive orders, prioritizing resources, etc. The only thing we've got working for us now is the fact that Trump is totally incompetent and doesn't actually care about governing. If he had a real agenda, or allowed someone with a real agenda to influence him, they could do a lot of damage.

They could completely **** up the environment, kill net neutrality, wreck foreign relations. There are no checks on those things.
Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
Any of the examples in the last paragraph are realistic.
So Bush had these same powers? Obama? I know you love you some Obama but what did Bush do, BY HIMSELF, that ****** up America?
So your thread has gone from Trump is the worst president ever to really...how bad could he be? Certainly no worse than Bush.
So you've resorted to asking question to answer questions? That's how I know you're backed into a corner and desperately want to change the direction of the thread.

Enlighten me. Which one of these horrible things so you think he will ACTUALLY DO?
So Bush had these same powers? Obama? I know you love you some Obama but what did Bush do, BY HIMSELF, that ****** up America?
Like I already said, any of the three examples I gave are reasonably likely.

What difference does it make what Bush or Obama did?
No, they are not "reasonably likely". At least not in the mind of a somewhat sane person.

Bush was horrible according to most lefties. Did he **** up the environment? Kill net neutrality? Wreck foreign relations? Obama was horrible to most on the right? Did he do any of these things?
Trump appointed a head of the FCC who is openly hostile towards net neutrality. He repealed environmental regulations and pulled out of the Paris agreement. He hasn't staffed the state department to adequately levels and has relied on diplomacy-by-twitter.

Those things are already happening.
Are they?
Head of FCC has done what?
Paris accord was nothing more than "Yep, we'll do that" with no repercussions if you don't.
Which countries do we have a weaker relationship now? Please exclude NK.

Seriously, Chicken BLittle, the sky is not falling.
The Paris agreement was "yep we'll do that." And now WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

The head of the FCC has announced plans to eliminate title II classification. Maybe it won't happen, but it's reasonable to think it will.

We have worse relations with the 19 other countries in the G20. Especially Germany and France.

We have worse relations with Mexico.
The Paris agreement was "yep we'll do that." And now WE'RE NOT DOING IT. -- Economically not feasible. Do you not understand basic finance?

The head of the FCC has announced plans to eliminate title II classification. Maybe it won't happen, but it's reasonable to think it will. - Why is this on the Pres?

We have worse relations with the 19 other countries in the G20. Especially Germany and France. Germany and France aka Socialist countries overrun by Islamists with little to no military power. They need us more than we need them. We have better relations with Israel and China.

We have worse relations with Mexico. LOL - country run by drug cartels?

You need to do better than this
8/25/2017 3:16 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/25/2017 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
LOL! That's just nuts.

You do NOT KNOW he's a billionaire. He just says so...............
Anyone with some real cash (his Daddy gave him hundreds of millions!) can buy themselves another trophy wife. By all appearances she doesn't even like him. Marla Maples was trophy #2. Ivaka's momma #1.
And his kids???????? I won't touch on Ivanka....... I have no idea about her character....... I kinda suspect she might be a tad high maintenance but hey, who am I to judge....... she IS very pretty.

The two adult boys appear to be robot/morons who run around saying my Daddy's Donny.........
And Barron...........as I said, I won't go there.

Ever see the movie "The Omen"?
That is unfair.

His father gave him a $1Million and he is worth a lot I won't debate the exact semantics. Ivanka is well spoken, successful and converted to Judaism (how can I hate on that)? Eric Trump is a major philanthropist. Don Jr. is well spoken and I have not read anywhere that he gets into trouble and flaunts his status. By your definition I am a robot too as I live a boring middle class life and I am fine with that. Clever with Barron but that is unfair to a young child. I hear you that she married him for status/money but she still married him!! As I said people can trash him all they want but he is rich, lives with a super model and has five really good kids from what I see. He doesn't care what people think about him. He is comfortable with who he is and while I may not always agree with him, I respect him.
Boris. Your "facts" are just not supportable. Where'd you get that 1 million figure? I ain't against the boys because they're boring, in fact I ain't agin em at all......... but good haircuts, fine suits, pocket hankies, and tassled shoes (on men!) don't make the "man" respectable in my view.
I'd bet you I'm way more boring than you though, Boris. I suspect you're just way too busy (and have had way fewer years than me) trying to make a living etc. to actually spend the needed time to gather accurate information out of all the misinformation and bullshit the right wing media spouts your way.

Being so boring I actually have time to read and study and I Don't have a working TV in my home so news radio gets some attention...... and when I hear about some interesting "factoid" I have the time to go check and see IF it's an actual fact before I cite it. Reading..... it's fundamental. lol
8/25/2017 3:24 PM
8/25/2017 3:30 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 3:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/25/2017 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
LOL! That's just nuts.

You do NOT KNOW he's a billionaire. He just says so...............
Anyone with some real cash (his Daddy gave him hundreds of millions!) can buy themselves another trophy wife. By all appearances she doesn't even like him. Marla Maples was trophy #2. Ivaka's momma #1.
And his kids???????? I won't touch on Ivanka....... I have no idea about her character....... I kinda suspect she might be a tad high maintenance but hey, who am I to judge....... she IS very pretty.

The two adult boys appear to be robot/morons who run around saying my Daddy's Donny.........
And Barron...........as I said, I won't go there.

Ever see the movie "The Omen"?
That is unfair.

His father gave him a $1Million and he is worth a lot I won't debate the exact semantics. Ivanka is well spoken, successful and converted to Judaism (how can I hate on that)? Eric Trump is a major philanthropist. Don Jr. is well spoken and I have not read anywhere that he gets into trouble and flaunts his status. By your definition I am a robot too as I live a boring middle class life and I am fine with that. Clever with Barron but that is unfair to a young child. I hear you that she married him for status/money but she still married him!! As I said people can trash him all they want but he is rich, lives with a super model and has five really good kids from what I see. He doesn't care what people think about him. He is comfortable with who he is and while I may not always agree with him, I respect him.
Boris. Your "facts" are just not supportable. Where'd you get that 1 million figure? I ain't against the boys because they're boring, in fact I ain't agin em at all......... but good haircuts, fine suits, pocket hankies, and tassled shoes (on men!) don't make the "man" respectable in my view.
I'd bet you I'm way more boring than you though, Boris. I suspect you're just way too busy (and have had way fewer years than me) trying to make a living etc. to actually spend the needed time to gather accurate information out of all the misinformation and bullshit the right wing media spouts your way.

Being so boring I actually have time to read and study and I Don't have a working TV in my home so news radio gets some attention...... and when I hear about some interesting "factoid" I have the time to go check and see IF it's an actual fact before I cite it. Reading..... it's fundamental. lol
If you don't watch football, you ain't a real man. And you ain't got no TV, nancyboy.
8/25/2017 3:31 PM
NO TV WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!
8/25/2017 3:31 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/25/2017 3:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 3:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/25/2017 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/25/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
LOL! That's just nuts.

You do NOT KNOW he's a billionaire. He just says so...............
Anyone with some real cash (his Daddy gave him hundreds of millions!) can buy themselves another trophy wife. By all appearances she doesn't even like him. Marla Maples was trophy #2. Ivaka's momma #1.
And his kids???????? I won't touch on Ivanka....... I have no idea about her character....... I kinda suspect she might be a tad high maintenance but hey, who am I to judge....... she IS very pretty.

The two adult boys appear to be robot/morons who run around saying my Daddy's Donny.........
And Barron...........as I said, I won't go there.

Ever see the movie "The Omen"?
That is unfair.

His father gave him a $1Million and he is worth a lot I won't debate the exact semantics. Ivanka is well spoken, successful and converted to Judaism (how can I hate on that)? Eric Trump is a major philanthropist. Don Jr. is well spoken and I have not read anywhere that he gets into trouble and flaunts his status. By your definition I am a robot too as I live a boring middle class life and I am fine with that. Clever with Barron but that is unfair to a young child. I hear you that she married him for status/money but she still married him!! As I said people can trash him all they want but he is rich, lives with a super model and has five really good kids from what I see. He doesn't care what people think about him. He is comfortable with who he is and while I may not always agree with him, I respect him.
Boris. Your "facts" are just not supportable. Where'd you get that 1 million figure? I ain't against the boys because they're boring, in fact I ain't agin em at all......... but good haircuts, fine suits, pocket hankies, and tassled shoes (on men!) don't make the "man" respectable in my view.
I'd bet you I'm way more boring than you though, Boris. I suspect you're just way too busy (and have had way fewer years than me) trying to make a living etc. to actually spend the needed time to gather accurate information out of all the misinformation and bullshit the right wing media spouts your way.

Being so boring I actually have time to read and study and I Don't have a working TV in my home so news radio gets some attention...... and when I hear about some interesting "factoid" I have the time to go check and see IF it's an actual fact before I cite it. Reading..... it's fundamental. lol
If you don't watch football, you ain't a real man. And you ain't got no TV, nancyboy.
I got Red Zone!!! Awesome!!!
8/25/2017 3:39 PM
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