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NameYr.Pos.ASPDREBDEBLKLPPEBHPWESTDUFTTOT
Jeremy EdelmanSo.PG48911334114689189608263A-654
Laurence FanelliFr.PG7676215011697689778266C-684
Harold GilesFr.PG56801224811558979666851C+599
Stacey DukeSo.SG8483756153857580358048C-651
John JordanFr.SG50733630726756679707246C+630
Robert ThompsonFr.SF767357381360635040616266C659
David PalmerFr.SF616945342664555250516770B644
John ByrdSo.PF50538554787914143787053A-658
Taylor CareyFr.PF75386567555124521846567B+617
Gregg CarrollJr.C55529459788414761908543A-722
Nathan GoinesJr.C764690599172161561767850A730
Lenard HallFr.C4440703281581727826747B+556
Averages--636450453844454460697356-650
Key: A="Athleticism," BH="Ball" Handling, P="Passing," SPD="Speed," DE="Defense," REB="Rebounding," BLK="Shot" Blocking, PE="Perimeter," LP="Low" Post, ST="Stamina," DU="Durability," WE="Work" Ethic
NameYr.Pos.FlexMotionTriangleFastbreakManZonePress
Jeremy EdelmanSo.PGC-FBFC+C+C-
Laurence FanelliFr.PGFFC+C-C-C+D-
Harold GilesFr.PGC-FC+FFB-D-
Stacey DukeSo.SGFC-BFC+B-D-
John JordanFr.SGFFB-FFB-D
Robert ThompsonFr.SFC-FC+FFB-D-
David PalmerFr.SFFFB+FB-C+D-
John ByrdSo.PFC-FBFB-C+D
Taylor CareyFr.PFFC-B-FFB-D
Gregg CarrollJr.CC-FA-FBB-C
Nathan GoinesJr.CFFA-C-BB-C
Lenard HallFr.CC-FB-FFB-C
Players are graded from A+ to F based on their knowledge of each offense and defense.
6/10/2007 1:26 PM
NameYr.PosGPGSMINFG%FG3%FT%OREBREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
S. DukeSo.SG262626.5.445.423.6030.01.22.72.00.90.02.710.4
G. CarrollJr.C262626.1.487.8152.87.60.81.01.01.32.412.3
L. FanelliFr.PG262626.0.335.307.6670.41.13.42.10.50.02.26.4
R. ThompsonFr.SF262622.8.377.244.6521.33.30.81.70.40.11.56.2
N. GoinesJr.C262621.8.566.7982.88.20.41.00.81.62.210.4
J. ByrdSo.PF26018.1.439.8981.84.80.30.60.91.01.36.2
D. PalmerFr.SF26017.8.444.400.8160.72.10.91.20.70.21.16.2
J. EdelmanSo.PG26017.3.340.295.8210.30.72.61.20.60.01.54.3
T. CareyFr.PF26014.4.395.8890.93.40.21.00.60.61.53.8
J. JordanFr.SG20014.1.380.407.6840.40.81.40.90.30.00.83.1
L. HallFr.C1401.9.3331.0000.30.40.00.00.00.30.10.3
Averages.432.354.77311.533.213.212.46.55.017.068.8
Opp. Averages.419.395.74412.333.513.312.95.33.419.266.5
6/10/2007 1:28 PM
NameYr.PosGPGSMINFGMFGAFG3MFG3AFTMFTAOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
S. DukeSo.SG262669085191601424168132705123169271
G. CarrollJr.C26266791112280097119721972126263462319
L. FanelliFr.PG2626677531583110130451128885514058167
R. ThompsonFr.SF262659460159114530463587224510240161
N. GoinesJr.C2626568901590091114722121025204256271
J. ByrdSo.PF2604705412300535946125815242533161
D. PalmerFr.SF26046456126102540491854243117529162
J. EdelmanSo.PG260451339713443239818683115039111
T. CareyFr.PF26037434860032362489525161638100
J. JordanFr.SG2002821950112713198152718501662
L. HallFr.C1402613002246000424
Totals59613801363844615962998633433221701294421789
Opp. Totals5921414150380395531320871346335139894981729
Next year, I specifically hope to improve our perimeter offense and defense. I hope to improve everything but that's the most obvious reason for our losses.
6/10/2007 1:30 PM
East Standings
SchoolCoachConf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10STRKRPISOS
Princetondugger1311-520-610-210-40-07-3W439193
Boston U.schultz1111-519-710-39-42-07-3L152155
Cornellaat1706811-518-89-49-41-06-4L2109225
BrownSim AI8-815-119-26-90-05-5W3117146
Fordhamcolorblind797-913-138-65-70-05-5W214596
ColumbiaSim AI3-135-215-120-90-02-8L427275
West Standings
SchoolCoachConf.
W-L
Overall
W-L
Home
W-L
Road
W-L
Top 25
W-L
Last 10STRKRPISOS
Pennsylvaniazamiam13-320-612-18-50-08-2W461238
DuquesneSim AI9-710-165-85-80-07-3W115431
Dartmouthbludluciano8-812-147-85-60-05-5L2201212
Yalewhiteshadow6-1010-166-104-60-22-8L2217148
HarvardSim AI5-118-184-94-90-14-6W1257197
BucknellSim AI4-127-196-71-120-02-8L3287209
6/10/2007 1:31 PM
From:Winford Flowers
To:Coach colorblind79
Subject:At least we're not the #6 seed...
Sent:06/10/2007 3:09AM

Coach, nobody's expecting much - now's the time to surprise them - you know this team can play when it wants to. I just hope they want to in the tournament - you're just 4 wins away from an automatic bid to the Big Dance!

Best of luck in the Conference Tournament!

Winford Flowers
Athletic Director
Fordham


------------------------------------------------------

I'm not saying it's outside of the realm of possibility, but I'm certainly not counting on winning the CT. I feel like the year has been successful as a team-building period, and that we should be stronger next year, probably contenders to make the NT. We exceeded my expectations for wins, by a few, and if I win a game in the CT then it cannot be called "a losing season"...if I win two, of course, I can call it "a winning season." Regardless, it's been good, and I've seen a lot of progress in my guys so far. There's still a little more to be squeezed out from them, of course, and that's great.

I do hope we can do justice next year to Carroll's and Goines' senior season.
6/10/2007 1:38 PM
Having looked in on oldresorter's tracking threads for Cal in Tark and Maryland in Crum, I've decided that I will not document the team so much in the future...it's too time consuming and I'm sure it's not the best reading experience to deal with game results on a day-to-day basis. I can summarize pretty easily and any time something particularly interesting happens, I can go into more detail. [edit: I deleted a lot of box scores on 6/25/07 to help this thread conform better to the ideal]
I will continue to post recruits and grades, ratings will probably go up about once a week...as always, I will have beginning of year and end of year ratings; I'll continue to shift the practice plan with midterms and finals, and show where my team is when I do that so it has context.
Basically, I've seen the error of my ways.
In the meantime, I beat whiteshadow's Yale team in the first round of the CT and I'm coming up against dugger13's Princeton again. Dugger has pointed out that I've dominated his program since arriving in the Ivy League, which is somewhat true, since I've got a 5-1 record against him, including 2 wins this year. I suspect he'll get me this time, though. I'm playing for the right to call this a winning season (having cleared the "losing season" hurdle with my first-round win), and he's playing for getting in the NT (he's got a fairly high bubble team right now, and is probably secure in making the tournament but I wouldn't guarantee it yet). If that weren't motivation enough, he no doubt wants to even the scorecard with me.
UPenn and BU also have a chance to make the Tournament. I do have some conference pride but at the same time, considering that I have no need for recruiting money next season I don't have a rooting interest in them making the postseason...other than to have a more challenging and entertaining conference schedule (with coaches active in the coaching corner).
Anyways, my point, if I have one, is that I'm going to document less and maybe comment slightly more, if I feel like I have something to say. Most of the real challenge in terms of teambuilding is done at this point, anyways, and it's just a matter of riding it out as my youngsters come into their own.
I will put up the numbers of whatever game ends my season, which should come soon enough. The best I can possibly hope for this year, after all, is a first-round exit from the NT. If I make it that far, which I highly doubt. I will document the CT championship, at least.
6/11/2007 8:07 AM
Fordham 14-14, 7-9
STARTERSMINFGM-AFGM3-AFTM-AOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
Stacey Duke, sg325-131-90-3003320211
Gregg Carroll, c316-120-05-5252020317
Laurence Fanelli, pg314-52-32-2006510212
Robert Thompson, sf284-93-50-0142100111
Nathan Goines, c287-80-07-11260010421
BENCHMINFGM-AFGM3-AFTM-AOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
John Byrd, pf192-40-04-414000018
David Palmer, sf181-61-31-201000014
Taylor Carey, pf131-30-02-224000124
John Jordan, sg132-21-10-000000025
Jeremy Edelman, pg122-31-20-011400035
Totals22534-659-2321-29925179612198
Percentages.523.391.724

Princeton 21-6, 11-5
STARTERSMINFGM-AFGM3-AFTM-AOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
Jessie Richardson, sg344-162-90-0121100110
Desmond Bolton, pg335-81-20-2355430111
Harvey Beaver, sf293-92-67-8166501115
Frank Brouillard, pf298-100-00-0480102416
Derek Irwin, c267-100-03-45100200517
BENCHMINFGM-AFGM3-AFTM-AOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
Curtis Waters, c184-40-01-216000039
Andy Shamblin, pf182-30-05-715000129
Joseph Santibanez, sf162-30-02-212301006
Wallace Campbell, pg121-21-10-000710003
Brad Montejano, sg102-21-12-200101047
Totals22538-677-1920-27174423145421103
Percentages.567.368.741
This was an overtime game, and one that we could potentially have won if Duke had either 1) not been so trigger happy or 2) hit the front end of a one-and-one (and potentially the back end, too) with 18 seconds in regulation. But what can you do? Anyways, that's the end to our season. We have one more night of improvement, so I'm not posting our ratings yet, but I feel like this was a successful season, considering that I was breaking in 6 new players and installing a completely new defense. I think we'll be a lot better next year.
6/12/2007 8:25 AM
NameYr.PosGPGSMINFG%FG3%FT%OREBREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
S. DukeSo.SG282826.6.439.405.5770.11.22.62.00.90.02.610.4
G. CarrollJr.C282826.2.478.8222.97.70.91.01.11.32.412.5
L. FanelliFr.PG282826.2.363.336.6810.41.03.52.30.50.02.36.9
R. ThompsonFr.SF282823.0.372.280.6461.33.40.91.80.40.11.66.2
N. GoinesJr.C282822.1.571.7852.88.10.41.00.81.52.210.9
J. ByrdSo.PF28018.1.459.9131.95.00.30.50.91.01.36.7
D. PalmerFr.SF28017.9.429.387.8040.72.10.91.10.70.31.16.2
J. EdelmanSo.PG28017.1.343.298.8210.30.72.71.10.50.01.54.1
T. CareyFr.PF28014.4.398.8951.03.40.20.90.60.61.53.9
J. JordanFr.SG22014.0.393.400.7140.40.71.30.90.20.00.93.2
L. HallFr.C1501.8.3331.0000.30.40.00.00.00.30.10.4
Averages.435.359.77411.733.413.412.46.54.917.370.4
Opp. Averages.422.388.74712.734.213.713.15.33.519.168.0
6/12/2007 8:28 AM
NameYr.PosGPGSMINFGMFGAFG3MFG3AFTMFTAOFFREBASTTOSTLBLKPFPTS
S. DukeSo.SG282874693212641584171233745625173291
G. CarrollJr.C282873412225500106129802152427303568350
L. FanelliFr.PG2828734621713711032471128996415064193
R. ThompsonFr.SF282864464172145031483795244910344173
N. GoinesJr.C282861810117700102130782281127224361304
J. ByrdSo.PF2805066213500636953139915252737187
D. PalmerFr.SF28050060140123141511960243219732173
J. EdelmanSo.PG2804793510214473239919753215043116
T. CareyFr.PF28040337930034382795525161842108
J. JordanFr.SG2203092256123015218162919501971
L. HallFr.C1502713004446000426
Totals65915161534265016473289343743461821384851972
Opp. Totals6521544160412440589356957383367147995361904
6/12/2007 8:28 AM
end-of-year ratings:
NameYr.Pos.ASPDREBDEBLKLPPEBHPWESTDUFTTOT
Jeremy EdelmanSo.PG48911334114689190608263A-655
Laurence FanelliFr.PG7676215011707689788367C-688
Harold GilesFr.PG57801224811569079666952C+604
Stacey DukeSo.SG8483756153857580368048C-652
John JordanFr.SG51733630726766680717347C+636
Robert ThompsonFr.SF767358381360635040616367C662
David PalmerFr.SF616945342665555250516871B647
John ByrdSo.PF51538555798014143787153A-663
Taylor CareyFr.PF75386667555223521846667B+619
Gregg CarrollJr.C56529459788514762908544A-726
Nathan GoinesJr.C774690599173161561767850A732
Lenard HallFr.C4440713281591727826747B+558
Averages--636450453844454560697456-654
NameYr.Pos.FlexMotionTriangleFastbreakManZonePress
Jeremy EdelmanSo.PGC-FBFC+B-C
Laurence FanelliFr.PGFFB-C-C-B-D
Harold GilesFr.PGC-FB-FFB-D
Stacey DukeSo.SGFC-BFC+B-D
John JordanFr.SGFFBFFBD
Robert ThompsonFr.SFC-FB-FFB-D
David PalmerFr.SFFFB+FB-B-D
John ByrdSo.PFC-FBFB-B-D
Taylor CareyFr.PFFC-B-FFBD
Gregg CarrollJr.CC-FA-FBB-C
Nathan GoinesJr.CFFA-C-BB-C
Lenard HallFr.CC-FB-FFB-C
Players are graded from A+ to F based on their knowledge of each offense and defense.
6/13/2007 8:44 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By colorblind79 on 5/12/2007
Player Ratings
NameYr.Pos.ASPDREBDEBLKLPPEBHPWESTDUFTTOT
Jeremy EdelmanSo.PG45901333114619088577860A-630
Laurence FanelliFr.PG7474214811617088717964C-652
Harold GilesFr.PG53781224811478976666248C+574
Stacey DukeSo.SG8281754153826976287645C618
John JordanFr.SG48713329728716176696844C+605
Robert ThompsonFr.SF737053371357604737535563C618
David PalmerFr.SF596741322661514846476469B611
John ByrdSo.PF48508253777514140756651B+632
Taylor CareyFr.PF73355965534525521836064B588
Gregg CarrollJr.C52499357768015759878140B+696
Nathan GoinesJr.C734289579066161559707246A695
Lenard HallFr.C4137643180511728826144B527
Averages--606247433741424258666853-620
Key: A="Athleticism," BH="Ball" Handling, P="Passing," SPD="Speed," DE="Defense," REB="Rebounding," BLK="Shot" Blocking, PE="Perimeter," LP="Low" Post, ST="Stamina," DU="Durability," WE="Work" Ethic
6/13/2007 8:45 AM
improvement/change:
Edelman - +25
Fanelli - +36
Giles - +30
Duke - +34
Jordan - +31
Thompson - +44
Palmer - +36
Byrd - +31, + 1/3 FT grade
Carey - +31, + 1/3 FT grade
Carroll - +30, + 1/3 FT grade
Goines - +37
Hall - +31, + 1/3 FT grade
Not to mention the strides they made in IQ. Yes, I would consider that a very productive year.
6/13/2007 8:51 AM
one of the stars I behind at Kutztown just had his career ended by some serious bull, in the NT. Actually, hell, it was several stars. I want to document them before they fade off into cyberspace limbo. Self-indulgence...but first, the way they lost:
0:3085 - 87Hartman nails a 3 from the corner off the crosscourt pass from Reade
Hawaii Pacific is playing a motion offense and is attempting to intentionally foul
Kutztown U. is playing a spread offense and a man to man defense (-1)
0:1285 - 87Ryan is stripped by Cusumano before he can get the shot off
0:1085 - 87Leonard Ryan is whistled for the reach-in on Cusumano. Foul #4 on Ryan, team foul #12
0:1085 - 87Cusumano misses the 1st free throw
0:1085 - 87Cusumano misses the 2nd free throw
0:09Vick skys for the rebound85 - 87
0:05Vick misses from the baseline85 - 87
0:03Vick grabs the rebound and is fouled on the floor by Joe Young. Foul #3 on Young, team foul #1285 - 87
0:03Vick misses the 1st free throw85 - 87
0:03Vick makes the 2nd free throw86 - 87
0:0286 - 87Billy Lawrence is whistled for the reach-in on Reade. Foul #2 on Lawrence, team foul #13
0:0286 - 87Reade misses the 1st free throw
0:0286 - 87Reade misses the 2nd free throw
0:01Ginter clears the rebound86 - 87
0:01Hawaii Pacific calls timeout86 - 87
0:00Ginter buries a desperation 389 - 87
Hartman is one of mine, but he's a junior (redshirted, and he's amazing for DII in terms of speed/athleticism and general offensive capabilities); Cusomano and Reade are not mine.
6/15/2007 9:37 AM
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