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Quote: Originally Posted By randallball on 9/30/2009FYI, in NABCL and CAPB we have minor league roster requirements (basically, field a full team so pitchers don't play 3B, LF don't catch, and position players don't pitch, etc.) and the minor league FA pool is already GREATLY lacking in C, 2B, SS, CF despite people signing nearly all of their draftees
So, despite the fact that all 32 owners "want to maintain their minors", it isn't as easily said as it is done.

I only have experience of 20 completed seasons over two worlds, but I have never had to field an out of position player at any minor league level at any time

I make sure I draft enough of those skill position players to feed my systems ... and I sign quality defensive IFAs from time to time ... and I claim released minor leaguers with defensive skills from time to time
9/30/2009 2:58 PM
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I'll assume that is sarcasm. Don't really know your stance on "NOT ENOUGH...." issues.

RB, all worlds are different but it may have to do with your draft settings. I pick up plenty of crappy hitting SS/C in the later rounds. Because of this, I usually have enough D-Spec players to field a full team.
9/30/2009 2:59 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By randallball on 9/30/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/30/2009

MG has 41 SS in AAA with 70+ across the board.

22 of them are 26 or older.

How did we get them to stick around for so long? By promoting them.

We have 49 in AAA in CAPB...what's your point? The problem is typically the lower minors


So you want 70 "across the board" SS in LoA? Do you understand "player development"? Because, if you don't, we can stop now.
9/30/2009 3:01 PM
randallball
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Green, I never had a problem in any of my worlds until the restrictions were put in place in my 2 worlds.

If you have never had a problem, that typically means that multiple owners are paying zero attention to their minor league systems and, thus, playing players out of position. The minor leagues are COMPLETELY empty of SS/2B/C/CF in both of my worlds now. Not just "passable" guys, ALL guys that play those positions.
9/30/2009 3:01 PM
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this thead has moved a bid from when I started my post to when I posted is (silly work distracted me)

I don't think it should be expected that a MLB average SS defensive player should be required ... we all know how HBD generates young will-be SSs with bad ratings when they are young ... I consider a young guy a "SS" if he projects to have the ratings to play the position at the MLB level
9/30/2009 3:02 PM
randallball
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No Mike, see my post above.

There are ZERO available players for those positions.
9/30/2009 3:03 PM
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I'd think 60/55/60/55 would be fine in LoA. After all, he probably has 1 pro year in experience.
9/30/2009 3:04 PM
randallball
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I would agree...no such players are available.

You can check for yourself if you like, CAPB: 0 C, 0 2B, 0 SS, 0 CF.
9/30/2009 3:07 PM
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This doesn't help:

7/24/2009 9:49 PMbluecrew65Chicago GangstersMelvin RainSS24Retirement
7/24/2009 9:43 PMdelhibengalFargo Fart KnockersValerio FloresSS26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:43 PMshalmeloLas Vegas AcesTimothy NicholsSS25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:43 PMDoctorbenwayAustin PopsiclesDan PooleSS26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMwonka1Richmond SpidersAlberto ParkSS23Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMzanaturalCharlotte KnightsJuan GonzalesSS23Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMnanuHonolulu Witch DoctorsPascual OrdonezSS25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosMarc HughesSS30Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosDon ChongSS28Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosEugene WalkerSS27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromDavid CarrerasSS25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMbullet6464Anaheim WingsBrendan NeagleSS28Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMexaminerebbBuffalo SoldiersVictor GomezSS32Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMemdumpSalem Squirrel MonkeysDude DietzSS30Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosJason CauseySS30Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMdelhibengalFargo Fart KnockersFritz DownsSS27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromDouglas BlackSS26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMchrishoilesFresno Devil DogsCharles PhilipsSS28Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMmdoneganNew Britain Fighting Beer DrinkersOrber OzunaSS28Retirement
9/30/2009 3:07 PM
MikeT23
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7/24/2009 9:49 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromBobby OliverCF24Retirement
7/24/2009 9:47 PMcoachmossOmaha Killer SquirrelsAllen NorthCF24Retirement
7/24/2009 9:43 PMsoursurferBoise SpudsRex WalkerCF26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:43 PMDoctorbenwayAustin PopsiclesVictor EncarnacionCF26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosClark GarciaCF24Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMsoursurferBoise SpudsAlex BorbonCF25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMDoctorbenwayAustin PopsiclesJuan MartinCF26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMrandallballSt. Louis River DogsSean GardnerCF25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:42 PMnanuHonolulu Witch DoctorsRicardo NunezCF25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMdelhibengalFargo Fart KnockersDonovan TurnerCF29Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromAndres ParkCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromJarrod SparksCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMrandallballSt. Louis River DogsBrian AdamsCF25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMrandallballSt. Louis River DogsCooper HeathCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:41 PMbluecrew65Chicago GangstersMitchell KentCF25Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMmlhutchMilwaukee Porn SilosJohnny HillerCF29Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMmcbain10Montgomery BurnsGlenn O RourkeCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMharvey_dentLittle Rock Team Discovery ChannelDarryl AbbottCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromWarren DiazCF26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMdrutesTampa Bay MaelstromAl DiazCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMbullet6464Anaheim WingsPlacido BorbonCF28Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMshalmeloLas Vegas AcesMatthew PotvinCF26Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMmdoneganNew Britain Fighting Beer DrinkersPedro JoseCF27Retirement
7/24/2009 9:40 PMkeith1995Atlanta HoochMiguel MelendezCF26Retirement
9/30/2009 3:08 PM
MikeT23
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Good lord. So many retired C/2B/SS/CF that my thread is broke.

9/30/2009 3:09 PM
MikeT23
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OK, I counted. CAPB had 49 C/CF/SS/2B under 25 retire last season.
9/30/2009 3:13 PM
randallball
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Did you check MG?

No, odd.

Many more retirees at those positions in your "perfect" world.
9/30/2009 3:15 PM
randallball
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Perhaps you guys should learn how to promote players to avoid that from happening.
9/30/2009 3:16 PM
MikeT23
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I'm not complaining about a shortage, you are.
9/30/2009 3:16 PM
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