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Quote: Originally Posted By mark3313 on 12/31/2009
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2009 I thought your conclusion was that 80 was better than 90. Did it change?


It seems, because only the 90+ power hitters were penalized, the 80 power hitters (all else being equal ) are out producing them. Makes sense too; penalize the 90 guy 20+% and he won't/ shouldn't produce as well as his 80 counterpart


Care to explain my re-post at 6:51?
12/31/2009 6:19 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By plague on 12/31/2009
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 12/31/2009 My 20+ home run hitters didn't have a noticeable drop. Guess that shoots your theory all to hell.

No theory. My quote said all my 20+ home run hitters have seen a noticeable drop. I can post them later if you need a visual or you can just take my word and not question me


Sure. Post all your 20+ home run hitters from the previous season along with their current batting stats and current/last season ratings.
12/31/2009 6:20 PM
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Sure, I will do it when I get home. I unfortunately have to work 6 hours on New Years Eve and work in 37 minutes. I will post links and I will post all 20+ home run hitters that played on my team last season and this season.
12/31/2009 6:25 PM
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http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=626121

did better this season... too bad it wasnt a steroid year
12/31/2009 6:27 PM
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P.S. I am sure there is a few players who put up stats close to their previous seasons. Players do have career seasons. I should of stated that it's a noticeable difference across the board not just 90+ rating players, but 90+ player ratings seem to have been hit much harder in comparison..
12/31/2009 6:28 PM
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Looks like the guy above you had a guy lose a point in power and have a better year.
12/31/2009 6:28 PM
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well, there is this guy as well:

http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1137588



edit:

here is a guy that was "worse" this year because of the change

http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=943486

12/31/2009 6:37 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 12/31/2009You don't need to change the rating. You just need to change your understanding of the rating
There it is, the whole thing in a nutshell. Happy New Year.
12/31/2009 6:49 PM
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12/31/2009 7:26 PM
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Or, it was a global change that was designed merely to reign in all players (thus making the high-end outliers less extreme) rather than a targeted tweak designed to nerf a specific type of player.
12/31/2009 7:32 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By pstrnutbag44 on 12/31/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By dedelman on 12/31/2009
Agree with jvford and tec.
Perhaps someone can explain then why overall hits have gone down, HR's have gone down, but Doubles & Triples are the same. Judging just off the stats, those HR's do appear to be turning into outs, unless HR's are turning into doubles and conversely some doubles are turning into outs (which does make sense, I'm just genuinely curious).

Edited: Somewhere along the line though, the fact that there are less hits overall should come into consideration, shouldn't it? Is it just because of the decrease in power? Is it an over-correction? Is it something else entirely?
I think you're misreading the data. Total hits have stayed about the same. With homeruns dropping significantly, and doubles and triples staying the same, it stands to reason that the homeruns are turning into singles. (Although that's more likely a net result - homeruns are probably turning into doubles and triples, while doubles and triples are turning into singles, but that's just my opinion)
12/31/2009 7:34 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by antonsirius on 12/31/2009Or, it was a global change that was designed merely to reign in all players (thus making the high-end outliers less extreme) rather than a targeted tweak designed to nerf a specific type of player.


The programmers have said the tweak only affected the elite power hitters.
12/31/2009 7:44 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by mark3313 on 12/31/2009
Quote: Originally posted by antonsirius on 12/31/2009Or, it was a global change that was designed merely to reign in all players (thus making the high-end outliers less extreme) rather than a targeted tweak designed to nerf a specific type of player.

The programmers have said the tweak only affected the elite power hitters.

No, they didn't.

"Reduced upper end of home run frequency. The steroid era is over."

That says nothing about players, only about the frequency of a certain outcome.
12/31/2009 8:42 PM
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12/31/2009 9:02 PM
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I wouldn't believe anything they wrote to you in a ticket. That changes direction more often than the wind does.
12/31/2009 9:16 PM
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