Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/06/2010I want games to run with regular, normal randomness, period.  This 43 point swing seems to have happened because of a bout of excessive randomness, which has also been mentioned in other threads mind you, and that's what I have a problem with, excessive randomness.  Understanding that their RNG "takes a ****" every once in a while isn't a good enough excuse/justification for excessive randomness...if it happens once its a problem.  I think their RNG could use some alterations...because I've seen this happen time and again in the NBA sim...a 60 point swing in a game with no change of venue...its unreal.

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/06/2010Thats the NBA sim not the NCAA one. They are different engines from what I understand, also they are redoing the NCAA engine right now. HD is in the beta of an update right now. 43 points swings do happen in real life and you admit that so give it up!

Just after a quick look I found 2 or 3 30+ point swings for Purdue last year where they won 1 game and lost another. I will look for a couple 40 point swings but this was just a quick look

Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 1/06/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/06/2010

I want games to run with regular, normal randomness, period. This 43 point swing seems to have happened because of a bout of excessive randomness, which has also been mentioned in other threads mind you, and that's what I have a problem with, excessive randomness. Understanding that their RNG "takes a ****" every once in a while isn't a good enough excuse/justification for excessive randomness...if it happens once its a problem. I think their RNG could use some alterations...because I've seen this happen time and again in the NBA sim...a 60 point swing in a game with no change of venue...its unreal.

this is NOT an example of the RNG "taking a ****", but an example of the edge of the bell curve (which, doubtlessly, exists). as i said, if you disagree, despite the rational path i demonstrated from "there are a lot of sims" to "this is not that unlikely", could you respond to my recent post asking which of the 3 steps you agree with and which you don't.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 1/06/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/06/2010
Thats the NBA sim not the NCAA one. They are different engines from what I understand, also they are redoing the NCAA engine right now. HD is in the beta of an update right now. 43 points swings do happen in real life and you admit that so give it up!

Just after a quick look I found 2 or 3 30+ point swings for Purdue last year where they won 1 game and lost another. I will look for a couple 40 point swings but this was just a quick look.

Dude, I had a 37 point swing against Columbus State this season (21 point loss AWAY, 16 point win HOME) and I didn't/am not griping about that...which shows that I've had this kind of thing happen to me, but I don't see a problem with my own scenario, but I do see a problem in btown's scenario...thus I'm not just randomly griping about a high point swing

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/06/2010Dude you don't understand HD

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/06/2010
You obviously don't as if its okay in your situation then why not his? Because no two 40 point swings are the same...mine made sense....btown's doesn't justifiably make sense. It happens to everyone and you just admitted it. What? lol There were even other circumstance in his case with the other team switching defenses Yes, and I acknowledged that and still questioned whether or not that should have made a 20 bucket difference...making up some points, ok...making up 43...fishy., SO GIVE IT UP! Your wrong my wrong what? just admit it and move on. wrong about what, btown getting screwed? I don't think so, read the OK I GET IT thread as you'll see that backs my viewpoint in a similar scenario. You can say you want a game without as many different results thats fine but that is not HD and shouldn't be the majority want a little mix up now and then. I didn't say that...I said I want to see regular, normal game randomness all the time...excess randomness, as exhibited here, is ridiculous.

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/06/2010I told you what I want in this game, normal, regular randomness all the time.  And yes I believe that the RNG takes a **** from time to time, I've seen it with my 2 blues.  If I thought btown lost because of everyday HD regular randomness used to sim games, I wouldn't have piped up to begin with.  Excessive randomness seems to have once again reared its ugly head so here I am speaking out against it...I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE EITHER.

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/06/2010

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/06/2010 I told you what I want in this game, normal, regular randomness all the time. And yes I believe that the RNG takes a **** from time to time, I've seen it with my 2 blues. If I thought btown lost because of everyday HD regular randomness used to sim games, I wouldn't have piped up to begin with. Excessive randomness seems to have once again reared its ugly head so here I am speaking out against it...I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE EITHER.

Who else is calling for it here in HD? Don't bring in your NBA sim its completely different and its not even the same system from what I understand at all. People in the OK I GET IT thread are speaking out against excessive randomness.

Who says the 40 point win wasn't excessive part like others have said! What if he should have only won by 15 Normally and just got really lucky that first game with an extreme circumstance combined with youth? All of a sudden he wins by 40 you have a problem. You also wouldn't have a problem probably if he lost by 1 or 2 the first time and won by 40 the second time as he could have won anyways. None of that happened so for the context of this argument it doesn't matter...let's deal with facts here, eh?