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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/15/2010

I'm actually quite amused that my company blocks email sites, etc. but you can access espn, WIS, etc. So I guess in your book, I'm not crooked. Thank God.

No one is saying he's being wronged. Only that you're hugely overreacting and then refusing to step back a bit (shocking). I'm saying he should be reprimanded for blatantly circumventing company policy. Its really ok for him to visit a banned site through a loophole...if and when his boss sees that, that makes him/his case any better? "Yeah boss, I thought because I accessed the site through another address that it was ok"....that's going over like a lead balloon. The intent is there.

I'll say this: If you ever do get your company off the ground, good luck keeping any employees around. Its going to be a sole proprietorship if it ever flies...its a one man show, always has been, probably always will be. I wouldn't need employees for what I do.

Learn some web design before you start if you aren't going to hire anyone. You could use it
For now, the site suits its purpose...the reason I have it aligned is so that the ads and webpage lineup...that's the only way I personally know how to do it.
2/15/2010 1:32 PM
I was talking about more then that. My main thinking being, nobody wants to spend time at a website that is annoying to browse and so on. I have not spent much time at yours and don't have any exact feedback, heck i don't even know the website, but if you truely do want to succeed with your rankings you need to have a vast understanding of html / css formating / java, the whole deal. Regardless of whether I agree with your rankings or not there are always people who will pay for anything sports related if it is presented correctly.
2/15/2010 1:38 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010
I was talking about more then that. My main thinking being, nobody wants to spend time at a website that is annoying to browse and so on. How/why is this so? The professionals that I've talked with think the setup is solid and eventhough the format is simple, its effective and easy to use...so I'd love for you to elaborate on your complaints. I have not spent much time at yours and don't have any exact feedback so this post is pointless?, heck i don't even know the website so this post is pointless? You don't even know what my website is and you're saying it sucks...wow...I suddenly see a tall glass of Haterade., but if you truely do want to succeed with your rankings you need to have a vast understanding of html / css formating / java, the whole deal. Regardless of whether I agree with your rankings or not there are always people who will pay for anything sports related if it is presented correctly. Substance over style all day every day...if you have the best looking site ever but **** content, I'm gone, period and I think a lot of others are too.
2/15/2010 1:45 PM
I guess nothing I ever say can be taken at face value? I give some constructive points trying to help and you still try to find a way to prove me wrong? I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong or harp on anything, funny how I even said that nothing I was saying had anything to do personally or whether I agree or don't agree with your ratings. I offered you some professional advice on what things you should look into and really get to know well if you want your site to succeed, if you really really want that to be your job.

You can have all the great data you want. If your site is clumsy and isn't appealing nobody will give it the time of day. You are wrong at the end there. Plus, gone? gone from what? You are making $0 currently.
2/15/2010 2:00 PM
I googled your site and found it. I stand by everything I have stated. With some very simple CSS formating you could have a very appealing site, without it you have a few white pages with tables that are centered. With some decent java work you could have a solid interactive site. I don't know what 'professionals' you have talked to but they must be pretty crappy professionals, your site has nothing to it.
2/15/2010 2:02 PM
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2/15/2010 2:03 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010

I guess nothing I ever say can be taken at face value? I give some constructive points trying to help and you still try to find a way to prove me wrong? I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong or harp on anything, funny how I even said that nothing I was saying had anything to do personally or whether I agree or don't agree with your ratings. I offered you some professional advice on what things you should look into and really get to know well if you want your site to succeed, if you really really want that to be your job.

You can have all the great data you want. If your site is clumsy and isn't appealing nobody will give it the time of day. You are wrong at the end there. Plus, gone? gone from what? You are making $0 currently.

Dude, you were bashing my site before you even went there. For you to say that its annoying to browse is laughable....its very easy to navigate and peruse.

As far as "gone" is concerned, had you read, you would have seen that I said I would be gone from a website that had all the glitz and glamour but had **** content. If the content sucks, there's nothing that will save it...nothing.
2/15/2010 2:09 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010I googled your site and found it. I stand by everything I have stated. With some very simple CSS formating you could have a very appealing site, without it you have a few white pages with tables that are centered. With some decent java work you could have a solid interactive site. I don't know what 'professionals' you have talked to but they must be pretty crappy professionals, your site has nothing to it
All this stuff is basically unnecessary....my rankings would be better/more appealing if they were colorful? Are you kidding?

The site isn't going to win any art awards, but the formatting doesn't detract from the site enjoyment either...it suits its purpose.
2/15/2010 2:11 PM
Your professional likely said "For not knowing anything about web design, yeah its solid" - Which means nothing. Yes I am 100% certain you know very little about web design, it is very evident. Your page shifts sizes, from aligned to completely centered? There is 0 consistancy and if you think its good, pat yourself on the back, if you want to make money off of it it needs to be better, i outlined a few things, yes web deisgn is all about the functionality of the page and its appeal. Your data is likely good, who am i to disagree with that i don't know what you are aiming for and that is not what I am talking about at all.

You were the one who stated that you would like that to be your career, if that is so you really need to figure out your web design and get that ironed out, it really is not that difficult to make a web page that fits the two things I mentioned. You have so little to your website it really wouldn't be hard what-so-ever to incorperate everything into a database and allow users to pull the information that they would like from it to view.

And yes, I had been to it before I made those comments, it had just been the first day you became annoying, so i had not been there in two months or so and was talking out of memory, funny how my memory of how it was was exactly 100% right.

Your site is boring.
2/15/2010 2:23 PM
Oh and lets not forget the pages that are just one big notepad file, just white backround and black text.
2/15/2010 2:24 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010
Oh and lets not forget the pages that are just one big notepad file, just white backround and black text.
Many of them...they're just for rankings...your point? There's no reason to dress up these pages.

The main pages (the Index, Archive, and Home Run Derby page) are solid as far as I'm concerned and I've gotten no complaints. People have complemented me on my simple yet effective web design
2/15/2010 2:27 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010
Oh and lets not forget the pages that are just one big notepad file, just white backround and black text.
Many of them...they're just for rankings...your point? There's no reason to dress up these pages.
You clearly do not understand what needs to be done to make this site a reality. I bet you have so little free time since work takes up so much of your life you don't have any time to put into the site.

You are wrong here. And for your sake I hope you realize this and this is just another 50-50 FT situation where you 'get caught up in the argument'. I am only saying this to help you out.

"I love feedback so please don't feel that you're being a nuisance...I want to be bothered."
2/15/2010 2:29 PM
The other big error with your site is there is no way to navigate from 1 page to another. Once you get there you have to click back. That is such an easy fix and really detracts a ton from the overall quality of your site.
2/15/2010 2:30 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010
Your professional likely said "For not knowing anything about web design, yeah its solid" - Which means nothing. Yes I am 100% certain you know very little about web design, it is very evident. Your page shifts sizes, from aligned to completely centered? You're completely nitpicking here. FWIW, all of the ranking pages are the same, and the main pages all maintain the same format. There is 0 consistancy and if you think its good, pat yourself on the back, if you want to make money off of it it needs to be better, i outlined a few things, yes web deisgn is all about the functionality of the page and its appeal. Your data is likely good, who am i to disagree with that i don't know what you are aiming for and that is not what I am talking about at all. I could make money off the site as is, I firmly believe that. Just right now, there's nothing to buy and I don't have any money for advertising.

You were the one who stated that you would like that to be your career, if that is so you really need to figure out your web design and get that ironed out, it really is not that difficult to make a web page that fits the two things I mentioned. That's really the least of my worries. Sounds like you just want to work for me. You have so little to your website it really wouldn't be hard what-so-ever to incorperate everything into a database and allow users to pull the information that they would like from it to view. My website isn't there for people to illegally copy my information, and if they wanted to do so as is, they could. Just because you can't macro-rape my site, its subpar.....ltm.

And yes, I had been to it before I made those comments, it had just been the first day you became annoying, so i had not been there in two months or so and was talking out of memory, funny how my memory of how it was was exactly 100% right. That's believable,,,

Your site is boring. Its a reference site basically...you look at rankings, you look at what I have currently, and you leave...there's nothing to buy...its "boring" for a ton of reasons not named web design.

2/15/2010 2:34 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/15/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/15/2010

Your professional likely said "For not knowing anything about web design, yeah its solid" - Which means nothing. Yes I am 100% certain you know very little about web design, it is very evident. Your page shifts sizes, from aligned to completely centered? You're completely nitpicking here. FWIW, all of the ranking pages are the same, and the main pages all maintain the same format. There is 0 consistancy and if you think its good, pat yourself on the back, if you want to make money off of it it needs to be better, i outlined a few things, yes web deisgn is all about the functionality of the page and its appeal. Your data is likely good, who am i to disagree with that i don't know what you are aiming for and that is not what I am talking about at all. I could make money off the site as is, I firmly believe that. Just right now, there's nothing to buy and I don't have any money for advertising.

You were the one who stated that you would like that to be your career, if that is so you really need to figure out your web design and get that ironed out, it really is not that difficult to make a web page that fits the two things I mentioned. That's really the least of my worries. Sounds like you just want to work for me. You have so little to your website it really wouldn't be hard what-so-ever to incorperate everything into a database and allow users to pull the information that they would like from it to view. My website isn't there for people to illegally copy my information, and if they wanted to do so as is, they could. Just because you can't macro-rape my site, its subpar.....ltm.

And yes, I had been to it before I made those comments, it had just been the first day you became annoying, so i had not been there in two months or so and was talking out of memory, funny how my memory of how it was was exactly 100% right. That's believable,,,

Your site is boring. Its a reference site basically...you look at rankings, you look at what I have currently, and you leave...there's nothing to buy...its "boring" for a ton of reasons not named web design.

You make excuses about why not to do things better then most Middle Schoolers.
2/15/2010 2:35 PM
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