Bang the Kettle Drum Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 4/26/2010WHy does it ever occur when there is an upset?

Sometimes IT JUST DOES. So your justifications are valid, but my questions/justifications on the other side are "**** happens".....lmao...unreal.

Why did the perfect storm of events occur to allow North Iowa to beat Kansas, who no doubt had vastly superior LP and PER ratings to theirs and whose shooters were no doubt significantly better than North Iowa's shooters. You're comparing real life where ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN to a sim that's limited (and rightfully so) by players with hard ratings. Why did the perfect storm happen to enable North Iowa to win a game they had no business even contending in? Again, your best response to my questions is "**** happens"....NOT GOOD ENOUGH, period....not valid AT ALL.

Oh I forgot. Real life is irrelevant to you. . No, people like you fail to realize how DIFFERENT HD and real life are...and I can't help that ignorance.
4/26/2010 12:27 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/25/2010
That has been your answer several times ... "I shouldn't have to make coaching changes ..."

Really? Why not? Why would you not put your best gameplan out there, and why should it not increase your chances of getting beat if you do a ****** job coaching?

For you not to have gone uptempo vs. a team with only seven scholarship players ... you need to look inward. That's an embarrassing rookie mistake.



Remeber dalt, coaches don't matter at all. They can't be thrown into OTR and therefore are meaningless.

Glad we can all rest easy tonight and not lose sleep over this.
4/26/2010 12:34 PM
That leads to a C- FT shooter going 0-5?
If a C- FT shooter means say 62% or so, and if each FT is an independent event, one would expect a C- shooter to go 0-5 about 10% of the time as a random event.....and this is surprising....ney, infuriating because???
4/26/2010 12:39 PM
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4/26/2010 12:40 PM
I completely understand it, its just that by no circumstances should I have lost this game...this is and was a gimme all day, every day.
4/26/2010 12:41 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By wronoj on 4/26/2010
colonels, when Gillispie speaks, you should listen.

so he missed the D, so what? the rest of his explanation is valid, and he didn't point out that you definitely should have played a +D.

the real problem you are having here is that your basic explanation is "i shouldn't have to gameplan against a bad team"... well, you should gameplan against them, or you shouldn't complain when the result doesn't go your way.

come join me in the Upstate in Wooden. Lots of good coaches there who will be happy to help you out...
I'm not looking for help, and that's no disrespect to anyone here...I just play my own way and that's the way I've always done things and its the way I will always do things. I will succeed or fail on my own merit...I don't want to play how dalter plays or how wronoj plays or how billy_g plays, I'm going to play how colonels19 plays now and forever, and if that means I'm never more than mediocre, then so be it...I'm completely comfortable with that. If you want to hate on me for not wanting/asking for help, then fair enough I guess...I'm not your average Joe


If you're not looking for help, then why are you asking us to explain why your team lost? Like you wouldn't and aren't going to take that info and adjust your team and gameplan accordingly. Just because you don't specifically say "help me", doesn't mean you're not asking for help.

You're not fooling anyone here and frankly, your games and rhetoric are starting to get stale. And by the way, I'm not your average Joe either. Hell, that's not even my name.......
4/26/2010 12:42 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By emy1013 on 4/26/2010


If you're not looking for help, then why are you asking us to explain why your team lost? To attempt to see if there's some reason/realm where this loss makes sense....and not surprisingly, it doesn't. Like you wouldn't and aren't going to take that info and adjust your team and gameplan accordingly. Considering I think I should have won that game hands down without adjusting my gameplan? I would play that game over again the exact same way...its you skewing this argument into something that isn't. I'm asking someone to tell/show me how I lost, and the explanations simply don't add up. Just because you don't specifically say "help me", doesn't mean you're not asking for help. Spin it how you like, I'm not asking for help, I didn't say, what can I do next time so this wouldn't happen, I'm ****** that I lost a gimme win game, PERIOD!

You're not fooling anyone here and frankly, your games and rhetoric are starting to get stale. And by the way, I'm not your average Joe either. Hell, that's not even my name....... Not funny
4/26/2010 12:47 PM
Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 4/26/2010I completely understand it, its just that by no circumstances should I have lost this game...this is and was a gimme all day, every day.

. . and thus you demonstrate your lack of understanding of probability yet again. . .
4/26/2010 12:48 PM
colonels, here's a great example of how stubborn you are and how it negatively impacts you time after time:

With this Armstrong Atlantic team, you've consistently scheduled very weak. So that's happened? Season 42: 21 wins, 116 rpi. S43: 19 wins, 140 rpi. S44: 17 wins, 170 rpi. Not even a sniff of the PIT.

So despite the fact that you've seen three seasons in a row that this strategy has backfired horribly for you, what do you do? Schedule another sim-laden, easy schedule.

You're just not interested or able to learn from your mistakes and improve, and that inability pervades everything you do in HD, including having to have this conversation 100x.

4/26/2010 12:48 PM
Very, very simple probability shows you that you losing this game is indeed reasonable and within the realm of possibility. That has been explained and showcased to you by a rotating group of elite coaches.

Yet you continue to shake your head vigorously and say, "No way I should've lost that game".

I'm sorry, that's not correct and you've been shown why by half a dozen different people. Your unwillingness or inabilty to process that information is a big part of your downfall.
4/26/2010 12:50 PM
And your comment above to emy, "I would play that game over again the exact same way" ... just mind boggling.

You don't want to learn or improve, you only want to do things a certain way and then complain if your expectations aren't met, regardless of how skewed and uninformed those expectations are.
4/26/2010 12:52 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
colonels, here's a great example of how stubborn you are and how it negatively impacts you time after time:

With this Armstrong Atlantic team, you've consistently scheduled very weak. So that's happened? Season 42: 21 wins, 116 rpi. S43: 19 wins, 140 rpi. S44: 17 wins, 170 rpi. Not even a sniff of the PIT. Your point? I'm a scrub pounder, that's how I play the game...I understand that is hasn't exactly paid off, but what exactly does this have to do with anything in question?

So despite the fact that you've seen three seasons in a row that this strategy has backfired horribly for you, what do you do? Schedule another sim-laden, easy schedule. Because its who I am and its what I do...again, how does this apply to the Montevallo game? Do you see me ******** about my low RPI because I've had SOS over 250 the last 3 seasons....huh?

You're just not interested or able to learn from your mistakes and improve, and that inability pervades everything you do in HD, including having to have this conversation 100x. I shouldn't have to adjust my gameplan to win that game, period. I bet if you ask WIS to sim that game 10 times right now, that I win all 10 by a significant margin. I'll bet my HD playing days on that.



4/26/2010 12:54 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
Very, very simple probability shows you that you losing this game is indeed reasonable and within the realm of possibility. That has been explained and showcased to you by a rotating group of elite coaches.

Yet you continue to shake your head vigorously and say, "No way I should've lost that game".

I'm sorry, that's not correct and you've been shown why by half a dozen different people. Your unwillingness or inabilty to process that information is a big part of your downfall. You all have attempted to justify the result, and given all the factors, it simply doesn't equate to a 3 point loss against a terrible team...it doesn't. Its a gimme win and I lost...that's bullshit.

4/26/2010 12:55 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
And your comment above to emy, "I would play that game over again the exact same way" ... just mind boggling. And I would, just to prove a friggin point.

You don't want to learn or improve I never asked to do either in this thread or in other threads, and you can spin my "cries for help" all you want, talk about seeing something that just isn't there., you only want to do things a certain way and then complain if your expectations aren't met, regardless of how skewed and uninformed those expectations are. The game is a gimme, bottom line...if you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say. This was a lock...how you can't/dont/refuse to see that is beyond me.

4/26/2010 12:57 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010

colonels, here's a great example of how stubborn you are and how it negatively impacts you time after time:

With this Armstrong Atlantic team, you've consistently scheduled very weak. So that's happened? Season 42: 21 wins, 116 rpi. S43: 19 wins, 140 rpi. S44: 17 wins, 170 rpi. Not even a sniff of the PIT. Your point? I'm a scrub pounder, that's how I play the game...I understand that is hasn't exactly paid off, but what exactly does this have to do with anything in question?



MY POINT? My point is that you are a person who only wants to do thing one way, no matter how stupid it is. You have a total inability to change, even when something flat-out isn't working, and that plays VERY directly into this conversation.



So despite the fact that you've seen three seasons in a row that this strategy has backfired horribly for you, what do you do? Schedule another sim-laden, easy schedule. Because its who I am and its what I do...again, how does this apply to the Montevallo game? Do you see me ******** about my low RPI because I've had SOS over 250 the last 3 seasons....huh?

AGAIN, it's because it shows for the umpteenth time that the problem here is that you make the same mistakes repeatedly, refuse to change or listen to anyone else, and then wonder aloud why the same crappy result keeps happening.



You're just not interested or able to learn from your mistakes and improve, and that inability pervades everything you do in HD, including having to have this conversation 100x. I shouldn't have to adjust my gameplan to win that game, period. I bet if you ask WIS to sim that game 10 times right now, that I win all 10 by a significant margin. I'll bet my HD playing days on that.



YOU'RE WRONG. It's already been established that your team wasn't THAT much better, and you had other things working against you as well (FT, HCA). This is why it's all tied in together -- you will only do things one way even if it makes no sense. You can't go through HD like that, and you can't go through life like that.

4/26/2010 12:58 PM
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