Quote: Originally Posted By isack24 on 5/26/2010
Trust me, I don't care enough about you or anything you say to have a colonels bias or colonels affinity. I nothing you. *GASP*

I might be annoyed, sure, but I'm not going to claim there is some glitch in a new engine based on that and only that. I asked if you'd be ******...I didn't suggest anything was wrong per se.

Again, your dismissal of the lottery example shows that you simply don't understand the point. The odds discrepancy is irrelevant. It's the point that "beating the odds" doesn't prove a flaw in the system, and that, over time, the odds approximate reality. The lottery is a one time occurence that happens once/twice a day...HD is made up of 100s/1000s of occurences per game...the reasonable expectation of the lottery is that you will ALWAYS lose...such is not the case in HD. The immensely slimmer odds do matter.

Again, that may not be true in the new engine, but you certainly don't know that after one or two games.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/26/2010

I asked if you'd be ******...I didn't suggest anything was wrong per se.

The immensely slimmer odds do matter.

Quote: Originally Posted By mniven on 5/26/2010
Colonels, serious question: What exactly are you getting out of this constant arguing in virtually every thread on this message board? Better and better at it ;)

I visit the boards infrequently now, but when I do, I'm shocked at the time and effort you put in arguing here. From my cursory view over the months, you don't seem to enjoy any of the WIS games that much and you don't really seem to be that intent on working to see HD improved. Both statements are false I also find it hard to believe that you are using the forums to learn anything about the game because, frankly, your record as a coach doesn't reflect much improvement. The guys here have been helpful to the extent that I want them to be. I don't want/need a mentor, I don't want to be a clone of some other coach, I take what "advice" I need, and that's it. You want to call me a bad coach or what have you, that's fine...I'm happy playing the way that I do...and people can't seem to grasp that. HD is more than just a "game" to me, its research.

So, in all seriousness, what are you getting out of flooding the WIS message boards with nearly 21,000 posts? This is since May 2003 fwiw Do you crave attention, are you bored at work? What is it? I post when there's a reason to post...I don't "ruin" as many threads as you think I do, especially given the fact that you're a forum part-timer if you will.

Quote: Originally Posted By isack24 on 5/26/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/26/2010

I asked if you'd be ******...I didn't suggest anything was wrong per se.

The immensely slimmer odds do matter.

Semantics. I'd be annoyed, not ******. I think your obvious intimation was a flaw in the engine, but maybe that's not the case. See that's the thing, you guys are always practically looking for something that isn't there...but sensationalize as you wish.

No, the immensely slimmer odds don't matter - at least not for point being made. Odds are odds, not absolutes. If that game was played 100,000 more times, and that player never again went 8-10, would you be OK then? Not really because in the official game of record, 8-10 is what stands. What would have happened if it ran more times is rather irrelevant.Over time, reality approximates odds, at least if it's working properly, which we won't know until we are "over time." If you really cared, you could look through every game simulated yesterday to determine if the majority of games resulted in what you would expect. But that's just the problem, all you ever have to look at is just that one game in that one spec of time...it wasn't simmed 1000 times and they took the best result, it was simmed once under very specific settings that will never again be duplicated throughout the season because of things like player improvement/IQ, venue change, gameplay settings, etc....each game is incredibly unique thus looking for patterns of "bad engineship (if you will)" aren't necessarily going to repeat because no 2 circumstances are the same....thus if you aren't going to gripe about 1 game, you're likely not going to see anything wrong, whether there is or isn't something wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/26/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By mniven on 5/26/2010

Colonels, serious question: What exactly are you getting out of this constant arguing in virtually every thread on this message board? Better and better at it ;)

I visit the boards infrequently now, but when I do, I'm shocked at the time and effort you put in arguing here. From my cursory view over the months, you don't seem to enjoy any of the WIS games that much and you don't really seem to be that intent on working to see HD improved. Both statements are false I also find it hard to believe that you are using the forums to learn anything about the game because, frankly, your record as a coach doesn't reflect much improvement. The guys here have been helpful to the extent that I want them to be. I don't want/need a mentor, I don't want to be a clone of some other coach, I take what "advice" I need, and that's it. You want to call me a bad coach or what have you, that's fine...I'm happy playing the way that I do...and people can't seem to grasp that. HD is more than just a "game" to me, its research.

So, in all seriousness, what are you getting out of flooding the WIS message boards with nearly 21,000 posts? This is since May 2003 fwiw Do you crave attention, are you bored at work? What is it? I post when there's a reason to post...I don't "ruin" as many threads as you think I do, especially given the fact that you're a forum part-timer if you will.

Quote: Originally Posted By mniven on 5/26/2010

Here's my takeway from that response: You're an egomaniac who comes to this site to argue for the sake of arguing. Of course, I could figure that one out without you telling me. I assure you that everything I post on here is legitimate. I'm not an egomaniac, but if that's what you see and perceive me as, then so be it. You want to get me banned from these boards because you don't like me...go for it.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't get peeved by your actions, but despite your insistence that you don't ruin threads, you almost singlehandedly have made it very difficult for people like myself to come to the message boards and actually find useful information about the sports sim that I pay to play. I'm maybe in 3-4 threads at any one given time? and I have been helpful at times. The fact that all you want to see is me ruining your experience, I can't help that...that's on you, not me...if you don't like me, ignore me...that isn't hard to do, is it? If I get under your or anyone else's skin, that's your fault. I used to be able to come here, browse through the threads that looked valuable and actually come away with information that I could use to get better at the game.

Now, virtually every useful thread is so cluttered with your arguing that they are essentially worthless for many coaches you're kidding yourself, especially those that don't want to engage in your "research" or your debate practice or however you want to couch it. They're 2 different aspects.

Since you've essentially admitted that you're an egomaniac I actually haven't, I realize that my plea will fall on deaf ears, but I would like you to know that you have basically contaminated, for at least one HD user, the only real place available to share and discuss information about this game. That's too bad because that isn't my intent. I raise legitimate points always, if people want to blow things out of proportion, I feel like I have no choice but to respond and defend myself. I'm branded and well aware of it. I realize that you have every right to post on these boards, but would it hurt so much to at least use a little discretion in the sheer amount of clutter that you add to this place so that people who are focused on true discussion -- and not their own whacked out "research" -- can have a place to discuss things without every thread be dragged down into petty arguments? You have a warped view of how many threads I've "poisoned" and I also encourage you to remember that it takes 2 to tango. Is it entirely my fault that people like fighting with me/calling me out? Lastly, fwiw, I created this thread, and if I ruin your experience for you, then why come to a thread that I started to begin with?