Posted by rcrusso on 9/30/2010 5:11:00 PM (view original):
Nice spin. You are of course denying the facts but still, nice spin.

Spin can be the truth!

Clinton budget before 1994, not so good, after 1994, genius.

Economy between 2000 and 2007, great. Eceonmy after 2007, not so good.

A Republican house will keep the economy storng, a Tea Party house will reduce spending.

You make the call!

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/30/2010 5:01:00 PM (view original):
And as I have always said spending comes from the House, as per the Constitution.

The Debt has always skyrocketed when Democrats control the house and maintained while Republicans control the house.

And I'll continue to shoot down your theory with the simple fact that the Senate has an equal vote on budgets and spending bills and the President has veto power, both of those were GOP controlled during the Reagan years.

Article 1 Section 7

"All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives"

From a little thing called the Constitution.

Posted by creilmann on 9/30/2010 6:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/30/2010 5:01:00 PM (view original):
And as I have always said spending comes from the House, as per the Constitution.

The Debt has always skyrocketed when Democrats control the house and maintained while Republicans control the house.

And I'll continue to shoot down your theory with the simple fact that the Senate has an equal vote on budgets and spending bills and the President has veto power, both of those were GOP controlled during the Reagan years.

And the Senate was only controlled by Republicans during a part of Reagan's Presidency, and always by a narrow margin.

"The Debt has always skyrocketed when Democrats control the house and maintained while Republicans control the house."

Prove it.

I'll give you a little head start on the facts of the debt rising during the Reagan / Bush years.

That little table is pretty telling eh!  Any guesses as to how swampy spins it?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/29/2010 5:59:00 PM (view original):
So you own a business. Your company makes money and you pay high taxes on it. Then you pay yourself, out of the taxed money and get taxed again. Then you buy something with the money and it gets taxed again.

The answert o squash the deficit is simple. Spend less.

Spend less... hmmm... how about not giving a trillion dollars to big banks GM and Ford?  I thought that you rightys are all about FREE enterprise.  If business has all the right in the world to profit in any and every way that they do why should they get such insane hand outs from the government?  You know that massive TARP bill that was signed by your Bush man?  Remember how you said that it was Obama that signed it into law?  you were wrong there, I wonder how many other things that you like to spew are plain incorrect too?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/30/2010 6:49:00 PM (view original):
Article 1 Section 7

"All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives"

From a little thing called the Constitution.

Yes, and the Senate can make changes and has equal voting power plus the President has veto power.  What part of that is difficult to understand?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/30/2010 6:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by creilmann on 9/30/2010 6:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 9/30/2010 5:01:00 PM (view original):
And as I have always said spending comes from the House, as per the Constitution.

The Debt has always skyrocketed when Democrats control the house and maintained while Republicans control the house.

And I'll continue to shoot down your theory with the simple fact that the Senate has an equal vote on budgets and spending bills and the President has veto power, both of those were GOP controlled during the Reagan years.

And the Senate was only controlled by Republicans during a part of Reagan's Presidency, and always by a narrow margin.

The GOP controlled the Senate for six of Reagan's eight years.

Sorry Swamp, but your argument holds no water.  Democratic control of the House was not the sole contributor to skyrocketing debt during the Reagan years.  The Dems controlled the House and Senate from '55 - '79 and as you can see by Jim's chart, the debt decreased.  This was a time of equal control of the Presidency by both parties.  

So what happened around 1980 that started the increase in our debt?  Is it just a coincidence that 1980 was the beginning of full-scale, supply-side economics?

And swamp and the other defenders of the right might like to know that while the debt was declining thru the Ike to Carter administrations, the tax rate was much much higher than today's? 

Another thing that happened to cause the debt to skyrocket starting in Reagan's terms; massive income tax cuts. 

Posted by greeny9 on 9/30/2010 8:05:00 PM (view original):
That little table is pretty telling eh!  Any guesses as to how swampy spins it?

I'll take a shot: "It's Obama's fault"