STEINBRENNER MEMORIAL LEAGUE 3: FILLED! Topic

dmoss
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i will take the 94 Sox
1/12/2011 9:56 PM
donaldjtrump
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Thank you, Dave.
1/12/2011 10:11 PM
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ConansDad took the 1988 Red Sox. 12 rivals are in not counting me, meaning we have 13 there and will have 30 teams. I am aggressively marketing to Yankees fans. There are still the 1983 Orioles (corrected), 1984 Tigers, 1990 Red Sox, and 2008 Rays among the rivals.
1/13/2011 8:37 PM (edited)
jpoulos2003
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how can the 73 orioles be available i thought gusv had them
1/13/2011 7:20 PM
donaldjtrump
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1983 O's. sorry.
1/13/2011 8:37 PM
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While I believe that $100M is a cap that allows every team to compete, especially in a twist league, image is everything as Andre Agassi once said. Therefore, I am going to realign as an incentive to people to get this league filled, particularly by Yankees fans.

Barring any serious objections, all of the Bush 1 era (1989-92) Yankees teams will be moved to the 4-team AL West. This makes it guaranteed that at least 1 will make the playoffs, and mathetically gives those teams' owners the best chance at winning a division.

 
1/14/2011 9:31 AM
donaldjtrump
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I may have 2 takers. Once they commit, the rest will fall into place.
1/15/2011 3:34 AM
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The important thing to remember particularly with the 1989-92 teams is that while they sucked in real life, many of those players had really good seasons elsewhere. 1983 Yanks would've had a wild card if those existed and 1984 Yanks just like everyone else in the AL East were left in the dust by the Tigers wire to wire that season but could compete and had a great second half as I recall.

As many of you know the best seasons for some of the more frequently used players, I will not re-state them here, but am spelling out the roster possibilities to show that all of these teams can contend. In the case of 1989-92, one of them will make it out of the AL West.

1983 Yanks possible rotation: Guidry, Montefusco, Alexander, Righetti, R. May (swingman). Pen: Goose, D. Murray, J. Howell, LaRoche, Shirley. Hitting: 1B Mattingly, 2B Randolph, 3B Nettles, SS Smalley (24 HR in 1979) or Campaneris (22 HR in 1970), C Wynegar (.399 OBP)/Cerone (A+ arm), OF/DH Winfield, Griffey Sr., Baylor, Murcer, Gamble, Kemp (.318-26-105, .941 OPS in 1979), Piniella, and any of all of the following speedsters: Mumphrey, Moreno, Otis Nixon.

1984 Yanks possible rotation: Guidry, P. Niekro, Rijo, Montefusco, Deshaies, Righetti. Pen: Rasmussen, J. Howell, D. Murray, M. Armstrong, Bystrom. Hitting: 1B Mattingly, 2B Randolph, SS Smalley/Harrah, 3B Pagliarulo/Harrah, C Wynegar/Cerone, UTIL Hudler (16 HR in 1996), UTIL A. Robertson, OF/DH Winfield, Griffey Sr., Baylor, Gamble, Kemp, Piniella, Moreno, S. Javier, DH/1B Balboni.

1989 Yanks possible rotation: Candelaria, Tommy John, Righetti, Al Leiter, LaPoint (best '88), Hawkins (best '88). Pen: Goose, Cary (1.07 WHIP lefty in '89), Guetterman (1.14 WHIP lefty in '90), Mohorcic (1.07 WHIP righty in '87), McCullers (1.14 WHIP righty in '90), Plunk (1.16 WHIP righty in '96 with 9.8 K/9). Hitting: 1B Mattingly, 2B Sax, 3B Pagliarulo/Blowers, SS Velarde (B+/B at SS with .375 OBP in '95; 16 HR, .317/.390 in '99 was his best 2B season) and Tolleson (21 SB, .313/.353 in '85), C Slaught (excellent from 1990 to 1995), C Geren (9 HR in 205 AB, .288 BA) OF Rickey, R. Kelly, Barfield, Polonia, Deion, DH/1B K. Phelps ('88 total or Seattle partial and '87 all excellent in power and OBP), DH/1B Balboni, 1B Hal Morris.

1/15/2011 4:40 AM (edited)
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1990 Yanks possible rotation: P. Perez (2.44/0.94 in 188 IP in '88), M. Witt (2.84/1.08, 208 K in 269 IP in '86), Leary (2.91/1.12, 180 K in 228 IP), Righetti, M. Leiter (3.82/1.22 in 195 IP in '95), LaPoint, Hawkins. Pen: Habyan, McCullers, Monteleone, Cary, Guetterman, Plunk, Jeff D. Robinson. Hitting: C Nokes (32 HR in '87)/Cerone/Geren/Leyritz, 1B Mattingly, 2B Sax/Velarde, SS Velarde/Tolleson, 3B Blowers/Velarde, OF R. Kelly, Winfield, Barfield, Washington, Polonia, Deion, and finally at DH/1B Kevin Maas (you all know how awesome he was!).

1991 Yanks possible rotation: P. Perez, M. Witt, Leary, Sanderson (206 IP/162 in 1981 with 2.95/1.11 with only 15 HRA/162 IP), Hawkins. Pen: Howe, Farr, Plunk, Habyan, Guetterman, Cary, Monteleone. Hitting: 1B Mattingly, 2B Sax, SS Velarde, 3B Blowers, C Nokes/Geren/Leyritz, UTIL Carlos Rodriguez (good '94, .284/.330 as backup), OF B. Williams, R. Kelly, Barfield, Sheridan (good '84), DH/1B Maas.

1992 Yanks possible rotation: Sanderson, M. Perez, Leary, Curt Young (3.45/1.18 WHIP in 198 IP in 1986), Hitchcock (3.93/1.23 in 176 IP in 1998). Pen: Howe, Farr, Tim Burke, Wickman, R. Springer (0.91 WHIP in 2007), Habyan, Monteleone, Hillegas, Militello. Hitting: 1B Mattingly, 2B Velarde, SS Gallego (.283/.364 with 10 HR in 1993), 3B C. Hayes, INF Stankiewicz (.403 OBP in 100PA/162 in 1994), UTIL Leyritz, C Nokes/Stanley, OF B. Williams, Tartabull, R. Kelly, Barfield, G. Williams, D. James (.312/.397 in 1987), 1B Snow, DH/1B Maas.

1/15/2011 5:05 AM (edited)
jpoulos2003
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if you have two would that mean you would go with a 24 team league
1/15/2011 9:12 AM
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We would need 12 Yankee teams and 12 rival teams for that. If I go 24, I would need 2 Yankee teams and switch Conansdad over to 1984 Yanks. I will get a league number in the next 4 days but not today. Let's try for 30 for now. I think putting all the 1989-92 teams in 1 division will help a lot.
1/15/2011 9:50 AM
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1983 Orioles possible rotation: Palmer, D. Martinez, McGregor, Flanagan, Boddicker, Storm Davis. Pen: T. Martinez, Stoddard, Mirabella. (Not much need for a pen especially with Palmer.) Hitting: 1B E. Murray, 2B Dauer (.284/.338 in 1980), SS C. Ripken, 3B Aurelio Rodriguez (19 HR in 1970), OF G. Roenicke (.270-21-74, .392 OBP in 393 AB, 477 PA in 1982), Bumbry (popular 1980 season), Singleton (1973 OBP and RBI machine and my alma mater Hofstra's best MLB player), Dwyer (.407 OBP in 1982), Mike Young (28 HR in 1985), Bobby Ayala (10 HR in 171 AB in 1980), C Joe Nolan (.309/.371 in 396 PA/162 in 1981), Rick Dempsey (several seasons with A+ arms, best one in 1980).

1984 Tigers possible rotation: Morris, Petry (3.36/1.135 in 1985), Wilcox, Rozema (3.09/1.17 in 1977 rookie season). Pen: Berenguer, W. Hernandez, Aurelio Lopez, Bair, Scherrer (2.74/1.15 in 1983), G. Abbott, R. Mason (0.91 WHIP in 29.2 IP in 1991), C. Willis (1.06-1.07 WHIP in '91 & '92). Hitting: 1B Darrell Evans (.281/.401, 41 HR in 1973), 2B Whitaker, SS Trammell, 3B HoJo, OF Lemon, Herndon, K. Gibson, Ru. Jones, Grubb (.333/.412, 13 HR in 210 AB, 243 PA), Kuntz (.286/.393 off bench), C Parrish, Lowry (.307/.392 in 150 AB, 174 PA).

1990 Red Sox possible rotation: Clemens, Boddicker, Dopson (3.04/1.23 in 1988), Hesketh (2.45/1.09 in 1985), Kiecker.  Pen: R. Murphy, Lee Smith, Reardon, Andersen (1.54/0.99 in 1989), Jeff Gray, W. Gardner, Greg A. Harris, Jerry Reed. Hitting: 1B Buckner (because you love him!), 2B Barrett (.293/.351, GG-caliber defense in 1987), SS Reed (.288/.376, 42 2B in 1989), 3B Boggs, 2B/3B/SS Naehring (various), SS L. Rivera (8 HR in 1991), OF Greenwell (1988 MVP runner-up season), Burks (40 HR season in 1996), Dwight Evans (.305/.417, 34 HR in 1987), Brunansky (32 HR in 1987), OF/1B Mike Marshall (28 HR in 1985) C Tony Peña (.301/.338, 15 HR in 1983), Plantier (.331/.420, 11 HR in 1/3 of a season in 1991). Claimed by Metsfan33333.

2008 Rays possible rotation: Shields (3.85/1.11), Price (2.72/1.19, Cy runner-up in 2010), Garza (3.91/1.25), E. Jackson (3.62/1.26). Niemann (4.39/1.26), Pen: Kazmir (1.04 WHIP in 36 IP), Percival (1.95/0.85 in 83 IP/162 in 1995), Al Reyes (2.15/0.93, 67 K in 62 IP in 2005) Wheeler (2.21/0.98 in 73 IP in 2005), Balfour (1.54/0.89 in 54 IP in 2008), J.P. Howell (southpaw, 2.22/1.13 in 89 IP in 2008), Trever Miller (2.06/0.96 in 43 IP in 2009), Bradford (3.11/1.155 in 75 IP in 2002). Hitting: C D. Navarro/Jaso/Difelice, 1B C. Peña (46 HR, .284/.411 in 2007), 2B Zobrist (.297/.405, 27 HR, 17 SB in 2009), SS Bartlett (14 HR, .320/.389 in 2009), 3B Longoria, OF Crawford, B.J. Upton, Floyd, OF/DH Gomes (21 HR in 2005), OF Baldelli, DH/3B Hinske (24 HR in 2002), INF W. Aybar, INF Iwamura, 1B/DH Dan Johnson.
1/15/2011 2:33 PM (edited)
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ill take the 90 sox  but not based on your description of them  cause that description blows and just cause the american league is retarded and allows the DH doesnt mean you should too.  Managing a game with a dh is like pulling your pud with no explosion at the end
1/15/2011 1:19 PM
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Whatever, LOL. In Stein 2, I had a vote for DH and it was unanimous yes. Thanks for joining, Metsfan, and good luck.
1/15/2011 1:27 PM
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84 tigers offcourse
1/15/2011 3:00 PM
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