Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:18:00 PM (view original):
fwiw, I've never defended Hamas a single time, I've repeatedly called them terrorists, I've said Israel has a right to exist, not once have I blamed Jewish people for my criticisms of Israel, and I've argued that Israel should be a safe state for Jewish people in a sea of anti-Jewish nations that are horrible.

Yet I'm called antisemitic for four statements
1. I think ethnostates are bad
2. I think Israel started the recent wave of violence by evicting Palestinians from their homes - colonization is bad
3. Israel is clearly the dominant power and probably has a higher obligation to search for peace - their retaliations will always do more damage
4. Israel has a horrifying practice of bombing homes, hospitals, news offices, charities, etc. and then lying about Hamas being present

All of these statements are defensible in my view. If you're going to attack me, attack me on those.

Also CCCP, I don't know if you've been paying attention but Joe Biden has repeatedly took the side of Israel... like he's said they have a right to defend themselves and has openly sided with them during this conflict. So I'm not sure where your criticism of the dems comes from.

He has a habit of twisting things up.
now he says the taking of the homes is land taken from the Palestinians.
he and Bob have both said that Israel took the land away in 1948.

he never raised a ruckus about the Arab states being “ethnistates “ but goes crazy over Israel.

he is vehemently against Israel being Jewish from its inception to the present.

he has ignored the question of the Palestinian demand of right of return - won’t address it.

Won’t address fact that even most Arab states today are fine with Israel as the Jewish state.

Let's go point by point.

1. Whether or not Israel has a claim from 1948 to the land is completely irrelevant to me. Palestinians have been living there for generations. It's not OK to evict people from their homes that they've been living in for their entire lives because of land claims from nearly a hundred years ago. Do you think Native Americans should evict you from your home? If not, why are you OK with Israel doing the same thing?

2. Arab ethnostates - I've repeatedly said that those states are also ****** up and should not be ethnostates. We only went back and forth on Israel because you think an Arab state is bad but a Jewish state is good.

3. Being against Jewish Israel - I think Israel should be a safe state for Jews. I don't think it should be an ethnostate (aka a "Jewish state"). Just like I think we should have states that are safe for black people, but should have a "black state."

4. This is the first time you've brought up right of return. What do you want me to address about it?

5. Most Arab states are fine with Israel as a Jewish state because they don't want Jews in their country, lmao.

Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:32:00 PM (view original):
His point 3 is a complete lie and shows his hatred for Israel. He will not acknowledge the history of perfect peace plans offered by Israel and the USA and rejected by the pals. And their insistence to this day on the right of return of 4-5 million Arabs into Israel for the sole cynical purpose of making Israel an Arab Islamic ethnostate.

he is a virulent anti semite.

My point three is just acknowledging that because Israel has the Iron Dome system, their air strikes are going to do more damage than stones thrown by Palestinian Children, and that the violence isn't equivalent on both sides.

I don't think this makes me an anti-semite but whatever.

Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:22:00 PM (view original):
(reminder that CCCP is openly agnostic and that the qualifier in the Bible for being Jewish is to be a descendant of Abraham - you can absolutely be Christian and still be Jewish, not in religion but in ethnicity)

Dino thinks Jewish = religion, what a clown

Spoiler alert - to be religously Jewish you also have to believe in God. I don't think CCCP qualifies.

He has Jewish parents - you know zero about Jewish law.
earring a bagel does not make you Jewish.

I'm just really curious what you think the differences between ethnic and religous Jews are. I'm not a religious Jew (neither is CCCP) but I am Jewish in heritage, I do share Jewish culture and I clearly ethnically identify as Jewish.

If you knew anything about actual Jewish law you would know that the child of a Jewish mother is also Jewish. But you don't. And it's frankly embarrassing for you.

You ******* have a Mennonite mother and she was Christian when you were birthed.
do you deny that?

I'd love for you to point to the aspect of Jewish law that says that Matrilineal descent is canceled by Christianity.

I really think you should quit this one before it becomes embarrassing to you.

Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:22:00 PM (view original):
(reminder that CCCP is openly agnostic and that the qualifier in the Bible for being Jewish is to be a descendant of Abraham - you can absolutely be Christian and still be Jewish, not in religion but in ethnicity)

Dino thinks Jewish = religion, what a clown

Spoiler alert - to be religously Jewish you also have to believe in God. I don't think CCCP qualifies.

I agree, you don't think. Show me where being Jewish you have to believe in God? One may be agnostic. You're such a tool.

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

They should as it is the only mostly Jewish state and Jews are despised in many regions of the world. There is no reason for Israel not to remain mostly Jewish in order to preserve culture. White and black are skin colors. Arabs do have their own countries. Do you believe China would want to be mostly non-Chinese or France be mostly non-French? Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. Are you ever not a complete and utter tool. And Hamas fires missiles into Israel, not stones. Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization.

The safest place for a Muslim woman and or a Muslim gay person in the middle east is in Israel. How do you explain that, leftist?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:22:00 PM (view original):
(reminder that CCCP is openly agnostic and that the qualifier in the Bible for being Jewish is to be a descendant of Abraham - you can absolutely be Christian and still be Jewish, not in religion but in ethnicity)

Dino thinks Jewish = religion, what a clown

Spoiler alert - to be religously Jewish you also have to believe in God. I don't think CCCP qualifies.

I agree, you don't think. Show me where being Jewish you have to believe in God? One may be agnostic. You're such a tool.

Yeah I agree. You're still Jewish and so am I. But if you think being Christian cancels out your heritage how can you not say the same to you being agnostic?

**** for brains is intellectually dishonest.
I brought up the right of return about 7-10 times.
he is a liar.
and just now he avoided it again.


look at what he says about the land in 1948.
Israel had a right to say all the land was theirs.
they were there first. Built the civilization and Jerusulam and accepted a compromise and let the Palestinians have half of Israel’s land.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

They should as it is the only mostly Jewish state and Jews are despised in many regions of the world. There is no reason for Israel not to remain mostly Jewish in order to preserve culture. White and black are skin colors. Arabs do have their own countries. Do you believe China would want to be mostly non-Chinese or France be mostly non-French? Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. Are you ever not a complete and utter tool. And Hamas fires missiles into Israel, not stones. Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization.

The safest place for a Muslim woman and or a Muslim gay person in the middle east is in Israel. How do you explain that, leftist?

Look at France and Habib s and refusal to allow shariah courts.

only a fool or antisemite does not accept that if Palestinians took over Israel it would become yet another Islamic country.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

They should as it is the only mostly Jewish state and Jews are despised in many regions of the world. There is no reason for Israel not to remain mostly Jewish in order to preserve culture. White and black are skin colors. Arabs do have their own countries. Do you believe China would want to be mostly non-Chinese or France be mostly non-French? Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. Are you ever not a complete and utter tool. And Hamas fires missiles into Israel, not stones. Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization.

The safest place for a Muslim woman and or a Muslim gay person in the middle east is in Israel. How do you explain that, leftist?

What if Israel allowed Arabic people in who did not despise Jews and allowed Jews to preserve their culture? See, I'm fine with Israel saying, "we won't let you in our country if you don't like Jewish people." What I'm not fine with is, "We won't let you in because you aren't Jewish." See the difference?

I really want you to explain why you don't support white people or black people doing the same in their countries. What does "being French" mean? French culture, or French heritage? I'm guessing that you're loading the **** out of that term.

Yes, Hamas is bad and a terrorist group. I just acknowledged that, keep up.

Yep, Israel is probably the best state in the middle east and the most left-wing one culturally, which is why they support gay rights (unlike many conservatives in America). I like the Israeli people.

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:22:00 PM (view original):
(reminder that CCCP is openly agnostic and that the qualifier in the Bible for being Jewish is to be a descendant of Abraham - you can absolutely be Christian and still be Jewish, not in religion but in ethnicity)

Dino thinks Jewish = religion, what a clown

Spoiler alert - to be religously Jewish you also have to believe in God. I don't think CCCP qualifies.

I agree, you don't think. Show me where being Jewish you have to believe in God? One may be agnostic. You're such a tool.

Yeah I agree. You're still Jewish and so am I. But if you think being Christian cancels out your heritage how can you not say the same to you being agnostic?

He won’t answer what his mother was when she gave birth to him.

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:18:00 PM (view original):
fwiw, I've never defended Hamas a single time, I've repeatedly called them terrorists, I've said Israel has a right to exist, not once have I blamed Jewish people for my criticisms of Israel, and I've argued that Israel should be a safe state for Jewish people in a sea of anti-Jewish nations that are horrible.

Yet I'm called antisemitic for four statements
1. I think ethnostates are bad
2. I think Israel started the recent wave of violence by evicting Palestinians from their homes - colonization is bad
3. Israel is clearly the dominant power and probably has a higher obligation to search for peace - their retaliations will always do more damage
4. Israel has a horrifying practice of bombing homes, hospitals, news offices, charities, etc. and then lying about Hamas being present

All of these statements are defensible in my view. If you're going to attack me, attack me on those.

Also CCCP, I don't know if you've been paying attention but Joe Biden has repeatedly took the side of Israel... like he's said they have a right to defend themselves and has openly sided with them during this conflict. So I'm not sure where your criticism of the dems comes from.

He has a habit of twisting things up.
now he says the taking of the homes is land taken from the Palestinians.
he and Bob have both said that Israel took the land away in 1948.

he never raised a ruckus about the Arab states being “ethnistates “ but goes crazy over Israel.

he is vehemently against Israel being Jewish from its inception to the present.

he has ignored the question of the Palestinian demand of right of return - won’t address it.

Won’t address fact that even most Arab states today are fine with Israel as the Jewish state.

Let's go point by point.

1. Whether or not Israel has a claim from 1948 to the land is completely irrelevant to me. Palestinians have been living there for generations. It's not OK to evict people from their homes that they've been living in for their entire lives because of land claims from nearly a hundred years ago. Do you think Native Americans should evict you from your home? If not, why are you OK with Israel doing the same thing?

2. Arab ethnostates - I've repeatedly said that those states are also ****** up and should not be ethnostates. We only went back and forth on Israel because you think an Arab state is bad but a Jewish state is good.

3. Being against Jewish Israel - I think Israel should be a safe state for Jews. I don't think it should be an ethnostate (aka a "Jewish state"). Just like I think we should have states that are safe for black people, but should have a "black state."

4. This is the first time you've brought up right of return. What do you want me to address about it?

5. Most Arab states are fine with Israel as a Jewish state because they don't want Jews in their country, lmao.

Wow you really are a tool.

#1) Israel offered to share the land and the word "Palestinian" was first uttered in 1967 by Arafat, an Egyptian. Israel conquered the land. Like the US did by taking Texas and Cali from Mexico.

#2) Arab states? You mean Islamist states where there is no separation of church and state. Women are treated worse than cattle and Hamas throws gays off roofs. Islamist expelled most Jews from Arab lands in the Middle East and forced them into Judea aka Israel. Where Israel won its land from two wars. To the victors go the spoils. Or do you want the US to return Cali and TX back to Mexico?

#3) Safest place for a non-Muslim and a Muslim in the Middle East is Israel. Jews aren't welcome anywhere else in the Middle East.

#4) You can address that you have no idea what the word "ally" means.

#5) They are? Most Arab states are fine? You are delusional.

Posted by dino27 on 5/24/2021 1:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

They should as it is the only mostly Jewish state and Jews are despised in many regions of the world. There is no reason for Israel not to remain mostly Jewish in order to preserve culture. White and black are skin colors. Arabs do have their own countries. Do you believe China would want to be mostly non-Chinese or France be mostly non-French? Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. Are you ever not a complete and utter tool. And Hamas fires missiles into Israel, not stones. Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization.

The safest place for a Muslim woman and or a Muslim gay person in the middle east is in Israel. How do you explain that, leftist?

Look at France and Habib s and refusal to allow shariah courts.

only a fool or antisemite does not accept that if Palestinians took over Israel it would become yet another Islamic country.

I didn't realize that you think all Arabs hate Jewish people????
Damn, maybe you really are racist!

CULTURE and ETHNICITY/RACE are NOT the same thing. Protecting your CULTURE does NOT mean keeping out a racial or ethnic group.

I am ok with one, I am NOT OK with another.

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/24/2021 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/24/2021 1:42:00 PM (view original):
Dino still refuses to answer whether Israel SHOULD control their immigration so that the population remains almost completely Jewish or majority Jewish.

And whether other nations should do the same for white people, black people, Christians, Arabs, etc.

They should as it is the only mostly Jewish state and Jews are despised in many regions of the world. There is no reason for Israel not to remain mostly Jewish in order to preserve culture. White and black are skin colors. Arabs do have their own countries. Do you believe China would want to be mostly non-Chinese or France be mostly non-French? Judaism is a culture as well as a religion. Are you ever not a complete and utter tool. And Hamas fires missiles into Israel, not stones. Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization.

The safest place for a Muslim woman and or a Muslim gay person in the middle east is in Israel. How do you explain that, leftist?

What if Israel allowed Arabic people in who did not despise Jews and allowed Jews to preserve their culture? See, I'm fine with Israel saying, "we won't let you in our country if you don't like Jewish people." What I'm not fine with is, "We won't let you in because you aren't Jewish." See the difference?

I really want you to explain why you don't support white people or black people doing the same in their countries. What does "being French" mean? French culture, or French heritage? I'm guessing that you're loading the **** out of that term.

Yes, Hamas is bad and a terrorist group. I just acknowledged that, keep up.

Yep, Israel is probably the best state in the middle east and the most left-wing one culturally, which is why they support gay rights (unlike many conservatives in America). I like the Israeli people.

I don't see the difference and there are many non-Jews in Israel % wise. Can you say the same for KSA or Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt? How would they know who is and isn't fine with Israel?

White and black are just skin colors. French culture and heritage. One may be black and or white but still be French. If France allowed 75 million Chinese people into France, it would no longer be France. Hence there are immigration laws.

But you equated Hamas with Israel, which is a Democracy. Tool.

Israeli people would find you abhorrent. Funny how that is. Not because you are gay but because you hate Jews.

I took history courses in college about African American history and was the top student in my college. And I believe in black causes and love jazz by great black jazz musicians and I love Motown and soul music.

it is ludicrous to say that these things make me black in skin or heritage or culture.

remember that lunatic who was a top member of NAACP- she was white chick who tanned her skin and she was sincere.

she was thrown out.