Posted by bruceleefan on 7/11/2022 11:44:00 PM (view original):
Dino, nice thread. Obviously will not bear much fruit, but the concept is commendable.

Too late to respond to most of this, but I just wanted to set the record straight concerning talking politics from the pulpit.

There wasn't any prohibition against it for the majority of our country's history. This prohibition was created by Lyndon B. Johnson in 1954.

This was a time of great change and also brought about a couple of other items to which most Evangelicals point to, wrongly believing they were from our founding fathers. Namely, adding "One Nation Under God" to the pledge in 1954 and adding "In God We Trust" to our paper money in 1955.

I personally do not believe the founders would have approved of any of the above.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:31:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by rsp777 on 7/3/2022 1:54:00 PM (view original):
I had conversations with all3 before he passed about my own faith. I am a Christian in that I believe there was a man named Jesus that lived and inspired people. That's about where the similarities end for me with organized Christianity. I was raised and confirmed as a Catholic and I couldn't run away from Catholicism fast enough in my youth. It is BATHED in hypocrisy and exists to CONTROL.

My personal feeling is that you should be free to believe what you want but leave YOUR religious beliefs out of our governance, as is and always has been the law of the land and what was intended by our founders. You can also keep your OPINIONS out of my face and stop condemning others that don't believe what you do. Worship who and however you want, but realize you are NOT the majority on this earth and that MOST humans have VASTLY varying beliefs from yours.

And as long as ANY religious organization/church/etc. wants to dip their fingers into the political waters then they should, at the very least, start paying their share of taxes. Until then I couldn't care less about the opinions of any church and I think you should STFU until you start paying your own way. Either way, you DON'T have the right to legislate your idea of morality and I hope some of the particular members of the Crunchwrap Court have a very difficult life from here on out and are held accountable for their attempts to do so.

great post and I strongly believe that people who try to scare others by telling them that they will go to hell if they don’t accept their religion are about the lowest scumbags that there are and definitely un-american which goes right back to the fact that they find good character in Trump - proving again that they are the worst people.

RSP you surprised me with that post. I am very glad you ran from Catholicism. It definitely IS seeking to control the whole world. I have alrady lambasted that institution in these threads. So.. won't repeat it. They have deceived the whole world..

About condemning others: I can in no way do that, but will tell you what the Bible says about flat out rejecting Jesus Christ. and I want that everyone will know that part. I might suggest one is on the road to hell, but cannot also say they will end up there, because they are still here and therefore have the opportunity to call on his name, and be saved

Have a good Monday, y'all

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/5/2022 3:09:00 PM (view original):
I thought this thread could grow into something. I was wrong.

I am done with this .. in 15 years, I have yet to see anyone come to a saving faith on chat media, especially difficult when in a room full of know it alls

It is easier to load marbles with a pitchfork. So I quit.. at least here.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/5/2022 3:09:00 PM (view original):
I thought this thread could grow into something. I was wrong.

I am done with this .. in 15 years, I have yet to see anyone come to a saving faith on chat media, especially difficult when in a room full of know it alls

It is easier to load marbles with a pitchfork. So I quit.. at least here.

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/12/2022 1:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/3/2022 5:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rsp777 on 7/3/2022 1:54:00 PM (view original):
I had conversations with all3 before he passed about my own faith. I am a Christian in that I believe there was a man named Jesus that lived and inspired people. That's about where the similarities end for me with organized Christianity. I was raised and confirmed as a Catholic and I couldn't run away from Catholicism fast enough in my youth. It is BATHED in hypocrisy and exists to CONTROL.

My personal feeling is that you should be free to believe what you want but leave YOUR religious beliefs out of our governance, as is and always has been the law of the land and what was intended by our founders. You can also keep your OPINIONS out of my face and stop condemning others that don't believe what you do. Worship who and however you want, but realize you are NOT the majority on this earth and that MOST humans have VASTLY varying beliefs from yours.

And as long as ANY religious organization/church/etc. wants to dip their fingers into the political waters then they should, at the very least, start paying their share of taxes. Until then I couldn't care less about the opinions of any church and I think you should STFU until you start paying your own way. Either way, you DON'T have the right to legislate your idea of morality and I hope some of the particular members of the Crunchwrap Court have a very difficult life from here on out and are held accountable for their attempts to do so.

great post and I strongly believe that people who try to scare others by telling them that they will go to hell if they don’t accept their religion are about the lowest scumbags that there are and definitely un-american which goes right back to the fact that they find good character in Trump - proving again that they are the worst people.

RSP you surprised me with that post. I am very glad you ran from Catholicism. It definitely IS seeking to control the whole world. I have alrady lambasted that institution in these threads. So.. won't repeat it. They have deceived the whole world..

About condemning others: I can in no way do that, but will tell you what the Bible says about flat out rejecting Jesus Christ. and I want that everyone will know that part. I might suggest one is on the road to hell, but cannot also say they will end up there, because they are still here and therefore have the opportunity to call on his name, and be saved

Have a good Monday, y'all

Some of this stuff is reeking of hate against Catholics and other stuff to use a euphemism.

It is a disgraceful comment to say that Catholics want to run the world. What’s your comments on the Elders of Zion.

I have zero problem with believing in your concept of non believers go to hell.

But when you tell people it will happen you are nothing more then a son of a goat.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/12/2022 5:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/12/2022 1:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/3/2022 5:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rsp777 on 7/3/2022 1:54:00 PM (view original):
I had conversations with all3 before he passed about my own faith. I am a Christian in that I believe there was a man named Jesus that lived and inspired people. That's about where the similarities end for me with organized Christianity. I was raised and confirmed as a Catholic and I couldn't run away from Catholicism fast enough in my youth. It is BATHED in hypocrisy and exists to CONTROL.

My personal feeling is that you should be free to believe what you want but leave YOUR religious beliefs out of our governance, as is and always has been the law of the land and what was intended by our founders. You can also keep your OPINIONS out of my face and stop condemning others that don't believe what you do. Worship who and however you want, but realize you are NOT the majority on this earth and that MOST humans have VASTLY varying beliefs from yours.

And as long as ANY religious organization/church/etc. wants to dip their fingers into the political waters then they should, at the very least, start paying their share of taxes. Until then I couldn't care less about the opinions of any church and I think you should STFU until you start paying your own way. Either way, you DON'T have the right to legislate your idea of morality and I hope some of the particular members of the Crunchwrap Court have a very difficult life from here on out and are held accountable for their attempts to do so.

great post and I strongly believe that people who try to scare others by telling them that they will go to hell if they don’t accept their religion are about the lowest scumbags that there are and definitely un-american which goes right back to the fact that they find good character in Trump - proving again that they are the worst people.

RSP you surprised me with that post. I am very glad you ran from Catholicism. It definitely IS seeking to control the whole world. I have alrady lambasted that institution in these threads. So.. won't repeat it. They have deceived the whole world..

About condemning others: I can in no way do that, but will tell you what the Bible says about flat out rejecting Jesus Christ. and I want that everyone will know that part. I might suggest one is on the road to hell, but cannot also say they will end up there, because they are still here and therefore have the opportunity to call on his name, and be saved

Have a good Monday, y'all

Some of this stuff is reeking of hate against Catholics and other stuff to use a euphemism.

It is a disgraceful comment to say that Catholics want to run the world. What’s your comments on the Elders of Zion.

I have zero problem with believing in your concept of non believers go to hell.

But when you tell people it will happen you are nothing more then a son of a goat.

You are a 'selective' reader. No where have I posted anything hateful about them who are Catholic. Almost all of them are Cath by birth anyhow.

I HAVE posted that I totally hate, despise and even curse that INSTITUTION..You are just are too stupid to discern the difference

and your accusations are typical of the devil's crowd. and yes, you are one of them

but hey, call me a white supremacist, a homophobe, or a racist. It's what you go when you run out of words

You need to bone up on your history. Start with the Vatican

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/12/2022 5:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/12/2022 1:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/3/2022 5:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rsp777 on 7/3/2022 1:54:00 PM (view original):
I had conversations with all3 before he passed about my own faith. I am a Christian in that I believe there was a man named Jesus that lived and inspired people. That's about where the similarities end for me with organized Christianity. I was raised and confirmed as a Catholic and I couldn't run away from Catholicism fast enough in my youth. It is BATHED in hypocrisy and exists to CONTROL.

My personal feeling is that you should be free to believe what you want but leave YOUR religious beliefs out of our governance, as is and always has been the law of the land and what was intended by our founders. You can also keep your OPINIONS out of my face and stop condemning others that don't believe what you do. Worship who and however you want, but realize you are NOT the majority on this earth and that MOST humans have VASTLY varying beliefs from yours.

And as long as ANY religious organization/church/etc. wants to dip their fingers into the political waters then they should, at the very least, start paying their share of taxes. Until then I couldn't care less about the opinions of any church and I think you should STFU until you start paying your own way. Either way, you DON'T have the right to legislate your idea of morality and I hope some of the particular members of the Crunchwrap Court have a very difficult life from here on out and are held accountable for their attempts to do so.

great post and I strongly believe that people who try to scare others by telling them that they will go to hell if they don’t accept their religion are about the lowest scumbags that there are and definitely un-american which goes right back to the fact that they find good character in Trump - proving again that they are the worst people.

RSP you surprised me with that post. I am very glad you ran from Catholicism. It definitely IS seeking to control the whole world. I have alrady lambasted that institution in these threads. So.. won't repeat it. They have deceived the whole world..

About condemning others: I can in no way do that, but will tell you what the Bible says about flat out rejecting Jesus Christ. and I want that everyone will know that part. I might suggest one is on the road to hell, but cannot also say they will end up there, because they are still here and therefore have the opportunity to call on his name, and be saved

Have a good Monday, y'all

Some of this stuff is reeking of hate against Catholics and other stuff to use a euphemism.

It is a disgraceful comment to say that Catholics want to run the world. What’s your comments on the Elders of Zion.

I have zero problem with believing in your concept of non believers go to hell.

But when you tell people it will happen you are nothing more then a son of a goat.

You are a 'selective' reader. No where have I posted anything hateful about them who are Catholic. Almost all of them are Cath by birth anyhow.

I HAVE posted that I totally hate, despise and even curse that INSTITUTION..You are just are too stupid to discern the difference

and your accusations are typical of the devil's crowd. and yes, you are one of them

but hey, call me a white supremacist, a homophobe, or a racist. It's what you go when you run out of words

You need to bone up on your history. Start with the Vatican

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Argue with that

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/12/2022 11:29:00 PM (view original):
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:

he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

And his is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Argue with that

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/5/2022 8:08:00 AM (view original):
Matt strikes me as more then a friend of Jesus.
I think he has something akin to being in love.
Im not saying it should be against the law.
I think a lot of proud boys and trumpers in general have that feeling for the exalted Trump.

I do believe that Jesus was probably a gay man. He is surrounded by men who go wherever he goes.
He does not have a wife or significant other and in those days rabbis we’re supposed to be married.
This is another way that Jesus was a rebel.

I forget which gospel this is from but there is an account where Jesus is spreading oil on a young guy still not an adult at something like midnight in his tent.

There is voices outside and the kid runs out covered only in a flimsy cloth which falls off and he runs away nekkid as a jay bird.

It is an odd story.

⁵⁰ Then everyone deserted him and fled.^(AR)

⁵¹ A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, ⁵² he fled naked, leaving his garment behind.

Posted by Jetson21 on 7/13/2022 11:07:00 AM (view original):
And to put it in another way close to 6
billion people do not believe in the divinity of Jesus.
Explain that.

But it does prevent over crowding in Heaven.