Posted by tisi29 on 7/27/2010 12:13:00 PM (view original):I have fielded teams with no chance of winning a bunch of times. I don't play players out of position, promote my best prospects to the majors, or sign anything better than the dregs of FA on one-year contracts. My worst 6 seasons (with those requirements), in wins: 64, 64, 60, 50, 61, 59. So it is possible to win less than 60. But each of those teams was a playoff contender 2-3 years later. So maybe it should be something like "if you win under 120 combined in 2 consecutive years, you must win 155 or make the playoffs in the next 2."
I like this idea, or some variation on it
Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 12:15:00 PM (view original):Posted by tisi29 on 7/27/2010 12:13:00 PM (view original):I have fielded teams with no chance of winning a bunch of times. I don't play players out of position, promote my best prospects to the majors, or sign anything better than the dregs of FA on one-year contracts. My worst 6 seasons (with those requirements), in wins: 64, 64, 60, 50, 61, 59. So it is possible to win less than 60. But each of those teams was a playoff contender 2-3 years later. So maybe it should be something like "if you win under 120 combined in 2 consecutive years, you must win 155 or make the playoffs in the next 2."Makes sense.
forfuckssake, he just listed a pitcher with 37 control in the world chat as a trade asset. boot him.
Posted by larry_jew on 7/27/2010 12:18:00 PM (view original):tm should be kicked out of $. He tries really hard, and is all careful with trades, but still sucks a fat ****. Something doesn't add up. And then he goes and tries to sneak his garbage closers in the HOF. Personally I've had enough.
Posted by hugenuge42 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):If we institute any sort of rules, I'm out of $. Not because I plan on tanking or support it, but because, as bot said....our ridicule should be enough.
Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 12:04:00 PM (view original):Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):I'm just saying that we should use expertise when it's sitting here in front of us. If I had a question about ****** prime-time TV, I'd ask Welsh. If I had a question about how to get the best productivity to salary ratio out of a JD, you'd be my boy. But if the question is about tanking and win totals? You really should just shut up and listen to me.Funny, but I think I'm making reasonable points.Your points are my points. Seriously. You just have them at the wrong threshold. Like take that last post and put in 69 wins instead of 59, I'm on board...I just don't think you realize how easy it is to get to 60. Those teams that I had in the low 60's were like half rule-v players, and the rest FA dregs...all played, more or less, at the correct position, but still sacrifcing a lot of defense. And I was doing it with payrolls in the 20's (sign and trade shenannigans excepted). You REALLY have to be crappy to get below that line...like 1B in CF crappy.
Posted by tylermathias on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):I'm just saying that we should use expertise when it's sitting here in front of us. If I had a question about ****** prime-time TV, I'd ask Welsh. If I had a question about how to get the best productivity to salary ratio out of a JD, you'd be my boy. But if the question is about tanking and win totals? You really should just shut up and listen to me.Funny, but I think I'm making reasonable points.
Posted by rlahann on 7/27/2010 11:55:00 AM (view original):I'm just saying that we should use expertise when it's sitting here in front of us. If I had a question about ****** prime-time TV, I'd ask Welsh. If I had a question about how to get the best productivity to salary ratio out of a JD, you'd be my boy. But if the question is about tanking and win totals? You really should just shut up and listen to me.
Posted by sergei91 on 7/27/2010 12:21:00 PM (view original):i'm all for tanking the **** out of the world
Posted by r0b0t on 7/27/2010 10:35:00 AM (view original):Posted by robusk on 7/27/2010 10:29:00 AM (view original):I have been below average on D for a couple of seasons in HR and have done extremely well.  If I remember correctly, I think dherz was pretty shoddy on D last season as well.  1st and 2nd best records in the AL.Obviously park, pitching staff, and personnel can make up for it.
Posted by robusk on 7/27/2010 10:29:00 AM (view original):I have been below average on D for a couple of seasons in HR and have done extremely well. Â If I remember correctly, I think dherz was pretty shoddy on D last season as well. Â 1st and 2nd best records in the AL.
San Francisco was 29th in D last season in $ and we were lucky enough to win the WS.
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