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12/27/2009 7:07 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/27/2009
It has happened, whether you like it or not
PROVE IT!....oh wait.........

prove it...
12/27/2009 7:08 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 12/27/2009

Maybe not centers, but Fresno ST had all SFs. A lot of other coaches had all SF and I've seen a couple with all PG/SG and 2 SFs.
Do you have proof?
12/27/2009 7:08 PM
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12/27/2009 7:09 PM
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WAit. . how can ratings, with no game influence be "Retrodictive" instead of predictive? The ratings contain no information of what actually happened. Basing a ranking on ratings is in fact the very definition of predictive. What the ratings and POTENTIAL of a team are doesn't matter. Also, the other main point is that two teams with completely identical aggregate ratings can be vastly different from eachother.

12/27/2009 7:09 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/27/2009Colonels, you are foolish, again this shows not only your lack of respect for those that have been around this game much longer then you but how much you only care to prove us wrong, which again is the reason I wouldn't believe anything you posted as it is very likely skewed to try and prove that you were right
You can't even remotely prove that your claims are true and you have the nerve to say this....damn...this is Sunday Night Comedy Hour! LOFL!
12/27/2009 7:09 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/27/2009Colonels, my claim that coaches have made teams of all one position is in no way false
Then prove that it is so...until then, its false...
12/27/2009 7:10 PM
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12/27/2009 7:11 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 12/27/2009
Oh? You have a pitiful walkon. . and more only 64% of the minutes at post would have been played by an actual post player. Almost forty percent of the post minutes were played by a small forward in the best case scenario. And a large portion of those minutes were played by a walkon.

They have guys at ALL 5 POSITIONS! zhawks is talking about guys all at one position LOFL
12/27/2009 7:11 PM
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I really don't want to get into the debate because I think it's fairly obvious that overall ratings are a very basic measure of how good a team is but doesn't properly differentiate a team's overall ability (because of durability/WE ratings which have no effect on a game's outcome), but I am curious what "LOFL" means.

Are you laughing on the floor laughing?
12/27/2009 7:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 12/27/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/27/2009
Colonels, my claim that coaches have made teams of all one position is in no way false.
Then prove that it is so...until then, its false..
No, it's not. It's unproven. Huge difference.
12/27/2009 7:13 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 12/27/2009

Disagree. I've seen the all Johnson one time. I've seen all Sf a couple different times all at the div I level. Fresno state was the only one that I saw make any noise (nt wise) though using all guys at 1 position.
Even if this is true (still hasn't been proven)...a 1 in 351,750 probability shows that its extremely extremely extremely extremely rare that I'm EVER going to see a team with 12 cats at the VERY SAME position. Its a winless argument on zhawks end.
12/27/2009 7:13 PM
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12/27/2009 7:15 PM
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If I had access to every world I would find it and show it to you but I don't and so I can't. It has happened though, regardless of whether you like it or not.
12/27/2009 7:15 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 12/27/2009WAit. . how can ratings, with no game influence be "Retrodictive" instead of predictive? Because you don't understand the difference of using them in an SOS and using them as an ENTIRE RANKING FORMAT The ratings contain no information of what actually happened. The ratings tell EXACTLY what the players are currently Basing a ranking on ratings is in fact the very definition of predictive. I'm not doing that, I'm basing a SOS off of ratings, not an ENTIRE SYSTEM What the ratings and POTENTIAL of a team are doesn't matter. Also, the other main point is that two teams with completely identical aggregate ratings can be vastly different from eachother.

12/27/2009 7:16 PM
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