Bang the Kettle Drum Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010

And your comment above to emy, "I would play that game over again the exact same way" ... just mind boggling. And I would, just to prove a friggin point.

You don't want to learn or improve I never asked to do either in this thread or in other threads, and you can spin my "cries for help" all you want, talk about seeing something that just isn't there., you only want to do things a certain way and then complain if your expectations aren't met, regardless of how skewed and uninformed those expectations are. The game is a gimme, bottom line...if you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say. This was a lock...how you can't/dont/refuse to see that is beyond me.

YOUR FIRST SENTENCE IN THIS THREAD WAS:

"Can someone attempt to explain this?"

You have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that you don't have the ability to determine which results are reasonable and which aren't. You have zero credibility on the issue.
4/26/2010 1:01 PM
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4/26/2010 1:01 PM
colonels19 you just lost against Carson-Newman for the very same reason(s) you lost to Montevallo, you are not even trying to coach.

16-52 shooting and 5-20 3point shooting. Why? Redneck started the game at -2 defense and then changed to a -3 towards the end of the game. Your game plan did not change until there were 16 seconds in the game.

What does the above point make about the Montavello game you are crying about? Look at all 5 games you have played, including the exhibition games. Not once have you even attempted to coach, make changes to defense positions, reduce 3 point shooting across the board or anything else.

I would be surprised if you have actually touched anything for any of your players with the exception of the depth chart. You have back up center with a 20 PE taking 2 3 point shots a game. All game this year he is 1-7. Last year he went 5-32.

That should tell people to just quit arguing with you, you are clueless, inept and do not want to coach, you simply want to complain the sim does not think and do it all for you.


You actually have to make an attempt to coach before you whine you lost a game because of something outside of your poor coaching ability or complete lack of coaching.

I am actually laughing myself silly after reading you do not want help and you are going to do it the colonels19 way. Sop far "your way" is to set a depth chart and do nothing else. Good luck with that and dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
4/26/2010 1:05 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
MY POINT? My point is that you are a person who only wants to do thing one way, no matter how stupid it is. You have a total inability to change, even when something flat-out isn't working, and that plays VERY directly into this conversation. Wanting to win games at all costs is stupid? I have a total inability to change? That's a pretty bold claim to make is it not...God forbid I play the game that has been most enjoyable to this point. If you look this year, I attempted to schedule more humans, but in the end, I usually can't pass up the allure of the slam dunk victory, and if I'm guilty of that, tough. American's love a winner.

AGAIN, it's because it shows for the umpteenth time that the problem here is that you make the same mistakes repeatedly, refuse to change or listen to anyone else, and then wonder aloud why the same crappy result keeps happening. You're obviously upset because I don't play the game how you think I should play. You try to treat me like I'm everyone else when I'm not everyone else. You think you know me and you think there's one set way to play HD...there isn't, and I don't play like anyone but me, but because I don't do what you tell me I'm somehow wrong, and/or an *******...get over yourself man. Again, I've NEVER ******* about my ****** RPI and SOS, and for you to even remotely suggest it is BEYOND RIDICULOUS and grabbing for straws.

YOU'RE WRONG. It's already been established that your team wasn't THAT much better, and you had other things working against you as well (FT, HCA). This is why it's all tied in together -- you will only do things one way even if it makes no sense. You can't go through HD like that, and you can't go through life like that. Again, the "you're wrong because I'm in the majority" mantra....FANTASTIC. All of your justification simply isn't good enough to suggest that a 3 point Montevallo win was the expected/a justifiable result. The game was a GIMME...that's INDISPUTABLE...you want to fight with me fine, but nothing will ever change my thought process that I should have won this game even by coaching "worse" than I supposedly did.

4/26/2010 1:05 PM
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4/26/2010 1:05 PM
And Colonels? Even if you play it ten more times and win the other ten. . .why is it illegitimate that THIS TIME the case where you DIDN'T win came up?

4/26/2010 1:06 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
YOUR FIRST SENTENCE IN THIS THREAD WAS:

"Can someone attempt to explain this?" THAT ISN'T ASKING FOR HELP, THAT'S TELL ME WHY I GOT BEAT JUSTIFIABLY AND NOT SCREWED...do you get it yet?

You have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that you don't have the ability to determine which results are reasonable and which aren't. You have zero credibility on the issue. I'm just saying by no means should I have lost that game, period...that's all I'm saying. You want to justify that crap, fine...don't tell me I should have lost that game.

4/26/2010 1:07 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 4/26/2010
Translation: I'm too lazy to bother game planning, so I schedule teams I don't think I should have to bother game planning against. And then I will ***** to high heaven when my laziness bites me in the ***
Completely false...its called playing the way I want to play, period.
4/26/2010 1:08 PM
colonels - ok, i got the defense wrong. so you that 7/16 from 3s was definitely a significantly above average performance. but not even close to mind boggling, either.

i think the problem here is that you are asking for an explanation, and then when you don't like it, ignore the explanation and say you don't want help. that doesn't make any sense. i have tried to reason with you for quite some time and if that is your attitude, i suppose there is no reason to continue. if you ask for an explanation, you are asking for help, plain and simple.

finally, you just seem unwilling to accept the fact that when two teams play in a random number generator driven sim, the chance of one team winning can not be 100%. it just can't be. even my team could lose to that sim. sure, its a 99.9% or better we would win. but that means sometimes, we would lose. there is NEVER a match up that there is "no way in hell" you should lose, to quote you. and again, your team is not good. their team is not good. that's not an insult, but it really suggests this is not a huge upset. there is no way you were even a 95% favorite. you know what, my team loses games they were more likely to win that yours, pretty much every season. when i have the best team in the country, i don't demand they go 35-0. in fact, its only happened once, out of a pretty large number of teams that had a bigger advantage over #2 than you had over this sim. the simple fact of the matter is, and you just need to accept this, even if you are a 99% favorite, you will still lose sometimes. that is how a sim works, that is how its supposed to work. if you wrote a sim that didn't work that way, it would be a broken piece of **** and nobody would play it.
4/26/2010 1:08 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 4/26/2010And Colonels? Even if you play it ten more times and win the other ten. . .why is it illegitimate that THIS TIME the case where you DIDN'T win came up? Because quite frankly, I should have never lost to begin with.

4/26/2010 1:10 PM
Colonels, you've got coaches here who are giving you rational explanations for what you did wrong in your game who have combined to win a total of about four times as many National Titles as you have total seasons. These guys know how to play the game, yet you refuse to listen to any of their advice/explanations. What does that say about you, I wonder? I'm now convinced that your whole agenda is to argue just to argue, and damn whether you're right or not.

I like to think that I've got at least a few brains rattling around in my skull, Gill is a freaking genius, Dalter is an extremely intelligent person, a-in-the-b obviously is a very educated, smart person, etc. and so on. Yet, you seem to pretend that none of us know anything about how HD works, how probability works, how chance works, or how randomness works.

Should you have won this particular game? Yes, more often than not, but the better team simply doesn't win every time. Players simply don't perform up to their ratings every time. Sometimes your players will perform to less than what their ratings indicate and sometimes the other team's players will perform to the maximum of their ratings. When these occurrences happen, you are primed for an upset. It happens, in real life and in HD. Does it suck when you're the better team and lose? Of course it does, but it happens.

What you seem to be implying by starting this thread is that the better team should win every time. If you disagree with this and agree that the better team shouldn't always win, then you're agreeing that upsets should occur from time to time. And if you're agreeing that upsets should occasionally happen, then what was the point of the thread? If it was to better understand why your team lost the game, then you were looking for help whether you want to admit it or not.

Look, you are obviously a well-educated person, your intelligence comes across very clearly in your posts. And there is nothing wrong whatsoever with taking a stand when you believe your point or idea to be correct. It's actually admirable at times. But when you do it every time for every point that you try to make, it doesn't come off as admirable anymore, it comes off as stubborn and bull-headed. It also gives the impression, as I said earlier, that you are arguing just to argue. This may be hard for to believe or even understand, but there's nothing wrong with conceding that you may have been off base with an argument, or that someone may know a little more about something than you do. It's called humility and, hold your breath, people in general tend to appreciate humility a lot more than bull-headedness. Just something to think about.......
4/26/2010 1:10 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By castorhos on 4/26/2010
colonels19 you just lost against Carson-Newman for the very same reason(s) you lost to Montevallo, you are not even trying to coach.

16-52 shooting and 5-20 3point shooting. Why? Redneck started the game at -2 defense and then changed to a -3 towards the end of the game. Your game plan did not change until there were 16 seconds in the game.

What does the above point make about the Montavello game you are crying about? Look at all 5 games you have played, including the exhibition games. Not once have you even attempted to coach, make changes to defense positions, reduce 3 point shooting across the board or anything else.

I would be surprised if you have actually touched anything for any of your players with the exception of the depth chart. You have back up center with a 20 PE taking 2 3 point shots a game. All game this year he is 1-7. Last year he went 5-32.

That should tell people to just quit arguing with you, you are clueless, inept and do not want to coach, you simply want to complain the sim does not think and do it all for you.


You actually have to make an attempt to coach before you whine you lost a game because of something outside of your poor coaching ability or complete lack of coaching.

I am actually laughing myself silly after reading you do not want help and you are going to do it the colonels19 way. Sop far "your way" is to set a depth chart and do nothing else. Good luck with that and dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
I griped about the Carson-Newman game, where? I have Miller at -1 fwiw...I had him at -2 last year...glad the sim acted appropriately....
4/26/2010 1:10 PM
WIth apologies to the PRincess Bride. . .

"INDISPUTABLE!"

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
4/26/2010 1:10 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010

MY POINT? My point is that you are a person who only wants to do thing one way, no matter how stupid it is. You have a total inability to change, even when something flat-out isn't working, and that plays VERY directly into this conversation. Wanting to win games at all costs is stupid? I have a total inability to change? That's a pretty bold claim to make is it not...God forbid I play the game that has been most enjoyable to this point. If you look this year, I attempted to schedule more humans, but in the end, I usually can't pass up the allure of the slam dunk victory, and if I'm guilty of that, tough. American's love a winner.



AMERICAN'S (sic) LOVE A WINNER? LOL. If you call faliing to make even the PIT for your entire tenure there being a winner, then sure. You are not trying to impress America, you're trying to make the postseason. (Which would be the way to impress America, anyway.)



AGAIN, it's because it shows for the umpteenth time that the problem here is that you make the same mistakes repeatedly, refuse to change or listen to anyone else, and then wonder aloud why the same crappy result keeps happening. You're obviously upset because I don't play the game how you think I should play. You try to treat me like I'm everyone else when I'm not everyone else. You think you know me and you think there's one set way to play HD...there isn't, and I don't play like anyone but me, but because I don't do what you tell me I'm somehow wrong, and/or an *******...get over yourself man. Again, I've NEVER ******* about my ****** RPI and SOS, and for you to even remotely suggest it is BEYOND RIDICULOUS and grabbing for straws.



OHMYGOSH. You think I care how you play the game? I'm just pointing out some shortcomings that you continue repeating over and over. There are dozens of ways to win in HD and dozens of ways to lose. You're proficient at the latter. I could care less how you or anyone plays the game. That's just hysterical.



YOU'RE WRONG. It's already been established that your team wasn't THAT much better, and you had other things working against you as well (FT, HCA). This is why it's all tied in together -- you will only do things one way even if it makes no sense. You can't go through HD like that, and you can't go through life like that. Again, the "you're wrong because I'm in the majority" mantra....FANTASTIC. All of your justification simply isn't good enough to suggest that a 3 point Montevallo win was the expected/a justifiable result. The game was a GIMME...that's INDISPUTABLE...you want to fight with me fine, but nothing will ever change my thought process that I should have won this game even by coaching "worse" than I supposedly did.



WRONG BECAUSE we're the majority? Hardly. Wrong because you don't know what you're doing in the slightest, and you're arguing with a bunch of people that do. It would be like an illiterate person arguing with a bunch of English profs over how to read Shakespeare. It's a joke.

4/26/2010 1:11 PM
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