Most F*cked world ever? Topic

They can ridicule my world and myself all they want. Point is, my world was created a year and a half after theirs and I'll still reach season 11 before they do. Who's world is more fucked up?

As for my playing history in Kruk, that is subject for debate but I'm not gonna spend time to defend myself as I really just don't care.
11/25/2010 10:14 PM
Posted by stiller609 on 11/25/2010 10:14:00 PM (view original):
They can ridicule my world and myself all they want. Point is, my world was created a year and a half after theirs and I'll still reach season 11 before they do. Who's world is more fucked up?

As for my playing history in Kruk, that is subject for debate but I'm not gonna spend time to defend myself as I really just don't care.
Which is why you're here posting about it? 
11/26/2010 1:20 AM
well played.
11/26/2010 1:33 AM
Posted by philogenemay on 11/25/2010 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tomhighway on 11/25/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
I checked out the world chat for Kruk and I find it interesting that they are trying to blame certain owners for ruining the world. Isn't the commish responsible for getting rid of owners that are "Ruining" teams? 100 win team to a 100 loss team in 2 seasons was mentioned.. At that point if it was a big deal that owner should have been removed.
In all fairness, hart is responsible for running off many owners,

The "leadership" of the world had him removed for legitimate reasons, then (after they were already having trouble filling) there was a rift in the world over going public or staying private,

They panicked and decided to go public with the idea of filling faster.
A few owners made good on their warnings to leave the world if it went public. So immediately after going public they lost a few.
Then Hart jumped back in there. This upset a good number of owners who had fought so hard to get him removed.
At least 5 or 6 additional owners exited solely because hart was back in.
He has plenty of teams, so it would seem that his intent is to p*ss off the world for having him removed.
Hart can say whatever he likes, but this is an accurate account of what is going on in Kruk.  I've been here 3 seasons and was dealing with a massive rebuild perpetuated by the ridiculous imbalance BEFORE I joined Kruk.  The only reason I am still around is that the team appears ready to turn the corner.
11/26/2010 10:19 AM
Posted by misterfresh on 11/26/2010 10:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by philogenemay on 11/25/2010 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tomhighway on 11/25/2010 10:26:00 AM (view original):
I checked out the world chat for Kruk and I find it interesting that they are trying to blame certain owners for ruining the world. Isn't the commish responsible for getting rid of owners that are "Ruining" teams? 100 win team to a 100 loss team in 2 seasons was mentioned.. At that point if it was a big deal that owner should have been removed.
In all fairness, hart is responsible for running off many owners,

The "leadership" of the world had him removed for legitimate reasons, then (after they were already having trouble filling) there was a rift in the world over going public or staying private,

They panicked and decided to go public with the idea of filling faster.
A few owners made good on their warnings to leave the world if it went public. So immediately after going public they lost a few.
Then Hart jumped back in there. This upset a good number of owners who had fought so hard to get him removed.
At least 5 or 6 additional owners exited solely because hart was back in.
He has plenty of teams, so it would seem that his intent is to p*ss off the world for having him removed.
Hart can say whatever he likes, but this is an accurate account of what is going on in Kruk.  I've been here 3 seasons and was dealing with a massive rebuild perpetuated by the ridiculous imbalance BEFORE I joined Kruk.  The only reason I am still around is that the team appears ready to turn the corner.
Nobody is denying any of it.  People absolutely left because of me.  I am proud of that fact.  We needed to get rid of the cheaters, aliases, and people that were willing to look the other way while the others cheated.  How exactly do you think the world got imbalanced?  The facts are all there.  Just because you weren't around for it doesn't mean it didn't happen.  If you guys could agree on anything besides blaming the wrong prson, maybe you could fix the world yourselves, but you can't.   

Jesus.  I've never seen a world so tarded up that they were happier with the cheaters than they are with the cheating stopped.  You guys deserve each other and your tarded up world - the one that couldn't fill when I was gone (just in case you forgot that little detail). 
11/26/2010 10:28 AM
You guys can blame me all you want.  All I know is that I hardly ever say a word in the leagues I am in that are well run and have strong leadership.  Some of them probably don't even know I am there.  So if you have a problem with me being vocal, perhaps you need to take a closer look at what's going on in your league than you do at me.  It's always easier to blame the messenger than it is to actually address the real problems.
11/26/2010 10:31 AM
Posted by hartjh14 on 11/26/2010 10:31:00 AM (view original):
You guys can blame me all you want.  All I know is that I hardly ever say a word in the leagues I am in that are well run and have strong leadership.  Some of them probably don't even know I am there.  So if you have a problem with me being vocal, perhaps you need to take a closer look at what's going on in your league than you do at me.  It's always easier to blame the messenger than it is to actually address the real problems.
You've said this 1000 times. We know, hart.

What I wanna know is why have you not fixed this world yet? This would be your 5th or 6th season there by now and the world seems to have  actually gotten worse, if anything. How long are you going to keep this up before you realize that it is a lost cause?
11/26/2010 1:53 PM
Posted by hartjh14 on 11/25/2010 1:00:00 PM (view original):
The reason people left is because I put a stop to the cheating that was going on.  They wanted me out so they could go back to their cheating ways.  Admin even admitted that there were multiple teams that were being run by the same people.  So am I to blame for speaking out against that or is the league to blame for allowing it?  The evidence is all there.  I did nothing but point out what was happening.  One look at the trade history of the teams that are loaded and the owner history of the teams that are not will tell you everything you need to know about Kruk.  I am not, nor was I ever, the problem - except to those that were cheating and a couple others that didn't like the way I didn't stop posting about what was going on.  They were more interested in looking the other way to keep the peace.
Yeah this makes alot of sense.  31 owners said "Oh no!  Harth is here now and we are not going to be able to cheat anymore.  Im leaving."

That must be it.  Gimme a break.

PS Im not going to be around for the next few days but just in case someone comments on this post let me say in advance that I was in Kruk and was never involved in any of this BS or drama, so it really had nothing to do with me personally in that world.  I was just an observer and bystander.
11/26/2010 3:22 PM (edited)
Go back to arguing with mike...you at least had a chance there.
11/26/2010 3:32 PM
Posted by stiller609 on 11/26/2010 1:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by hartjh14 on 11/26/2010 10:31:00 AM (view original):
You guys can blame me all you want.  All I know is that I hardly ever say a word in the leagues I am in that are well run and have strong leadership.  Some of them probably don't even know I am there.  So if you have a problem with me being vocal, perhaps you need to take a closer look at what's going on in your league than you do at me.  It's always easier to blame the messenger than it is to actually address the real problems.
You've said this 1000 times. We know, hart.

What I wanna know is why have you not fixed this world yet? This would be your 5th or 6th season there by now and the world seems to have  actually gotten worse, if anything. How long are you going to keep this up before you realize that it is a lost cause?
I realized a couple seasons ago that it was a lost cause...that is why I left.  I was hoping the fact that things got worse when I left might clue some people in, but apparently not.
11/26/2010 3:36 PM
You can't lead if no one wants to follow.   While you may have a "noble" cause, it's also a lost cause.  Not sure why you insist on being in Kruk at this point unless it's just to grind an ax with some owners.   Surely you understand this.
11/26/2010 4:28 PM

And, no, that dumbass doesn't "have a chance" when he argues with me.    He's screaming at his monitor while he posts, I read 3-4 sentences and move on.   Anyone reading his posts, or just part of them, can see he's a friggin' nutjob.    And, undoubtedly, seeking some acceptance from someone.  

11/26/2010 4:30 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/26/2010 4:30:00 PM (view original):

And, no, that dumbass doesn't "have a chance" when he argues with me.    He's screaming at his monitor while he posts, I read 3-4 sentences and move on.   Anyone reading his posts, or just part of them, can see he's a friggin' nutjob.    And, undoubtedly, seeking some acceptance from someone.  

I was entertained...I was trying to be supportive and encouraging so he would go back on the attack.
11/26/2010 4:32 PM
Oh, he will.   He's the easiest monkey to poke around these parts.   I'll show you when he returns.  Anywhere he posts.
11/26/2010 4:35 PM
Even though he'll read this, I'll tell you how(he won't be able to help himself).    When he posts, I will make one comment.  One sentence only.  And he'll write a book in response. 

I normally don't bother with him, I really do think he's disturbed, but I do think it will be worth proving a point.   It think this last 4 days, and counting, tirade came from "You could turn off your computer and go clean some stalls, stableboy."
11/26/2010 4:38 PM
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