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swamp....For several years I just thought you were an ignorant partisan. Lately you have become a total *******. Do you understand what war is? I do. I fought in one. I lost friends that to this day i miss. Do NOT call the death of 4000 a "cheap" price to pay for all the profit the stockholders of military contractors have made and are making.
11/4/2011 11:13 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 11/4/2011 10:30:00 PM (view original):
It had everything to do with protecting us. We didnt have another domestic terror attack since 9/11.

It isnt an issue of being cavalier. It is just a matter of math. We fought a brutal war for 8 years and took 4000 casulaties. I say thats earns a medal.
The 9/11 attacks did not originate from Iraq.  If Saddam did one thing well, it was keeping al-Qaeda out of Iraq.
Most of the 19 hijackers have roots in Saudi Arabia.

We already know from your posts that you have a very low regard for human life, especially non-Americans.

No one should ever earn a medal for taking human life.
11/4/2011 11:38 PM
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I don't think anyone advocates soldiers dying as a good thing.   However, it's a soldier's life.   I'm sure they know that they may be put in danger when they sign up.  In those eight years, more people walking to the movies, grocery store or work in America were killed in the streets than soldiers in Iraq.   If you're going to shed tears, save a few for those people too.
11/5/2011 6:53 AM
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say a prayer for the common foot soldier, lets drink to the salt of the earth
11/5/2011 7:22 AM
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"The point being we ran a smart and successful war their".

"...it is the least bloody war we ever fought in".

"It isnt an issue of being cavalier. It is just a matter of math. We fought a brutal war for 8 years and took 4000 casulaties. I say thats earns a medal".

None of that says "cheap". He is just stating facts.

I would personally like to thank you for your service and sacrifice.

It is awful that any lives were lost, especially the lives of your friends.

But, having said that, it shouldn't mean no one can state the facts of how successful of a campaign we ran, when compared to every other conflict our soldiers have fought in.
11/5/2011 8:28 AM
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You guys get back to me after you have taken the steps to get some first hand eye witness experience of the matter. In the mean time I will continue to regard your patriotic chest thumping as typical ill informed nonsense.
11/5/2011 11:07 AM
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No thanks.  I'll assume you're an ignorant blowhard who hasn't served a day in the military until you prove otherwise. 
11/5/2011 11:34 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2011 6:53:00 AM (view original):
I don't think anyone advocates soldiers dying as a good thing.   However, it's a soldier's life.   I'm sure they know that they may be put in danger when they sign up.  In those eight years, more people walking to the movies, grocery store or work in America were killed in the streets than soldiers in Iraq.   If you're going to shed tears, save a few for those people too.
Yes, it is a soldier's life but just because that is the risk one takes when joining the armed forces doesn't mean he should be put in harm's way unnecessarily.  If the invasion of Iraq was a justifiable defense of our nation's freedoms, no one would have a problem.  But it has never been proven that Iraq had the capability to threaten the United States.

As of your analogy of innocent lives dying in America, random accidents don't compare to a soldier dying in a war. 
11/5/2011 11:51 AM
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Murder isn't an accident.   

And "necessary" isn't your call unless you're Commander in Chief. 
11/5/2011 11:53 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2011 11:34:00 AM (view original):
No thanks.  I'll assume you're an ignorant blowhard who hasn't served a day in the military until you prove otherwise. 
Assume all you want. You have the luxury of having been born in a time when your service was voluntary. I had no choice in the matter. If I had I would certainly not chosen to serve for the likes of you. I often regret not having moved to Canada rather then serve.
11/5/2011 12:24 PM
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Posted by nickbracco on 11/5/2011 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2011 11:34:00 AM (view original):
No thanks.  I'll assume you're an ignorant blowhard who hasn't served a day in the military until you prove otherwise. 
Assume all you want. You have the luxury of having been born in a time when your service was voluntary. I had no choice in the matter. If I had I would certainly not chosen to serve for the likes of you. I often regret not having moved to Canada rather then serve.
I'm quite sure my tax money to pay for your "service" would have felt like a waste.   Putting on a uniform doesn't make you a soldier.  You sure as hell don't sound like a soldier.
11/5/2011 2:05 PM
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It appears that there is good news and bad news for you Mike. The good news of course is that back when I was "waisting" tax payer money from Uncle Sam you were not a tax payer. The bad news is the monthly check I currently get from Social Security and the even larger amount medicare is paying out for me every month. I am sure your taxes contribute to that and when you lose sleep over it just remember how much of your money I spend each month. Oh, and thank you for the raise in Social Security I get next year.

11/5/2011 4:16 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2011 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Murder isn't an accident.   

And "necessary" isn't your call unless you're Commander in Chief. 
You didn't say murder.

Necessary may not be my "call" but it is my opinion and unless the Commander in Chief gives us evidence to the contrary, I'm gonna stick with what I wrote.
11/5/2011 10:44 PM
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Posted by jiml60 on 11/4/2011 11:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 11/4/2011 10:30:00 PM (view original):
It had everything to do with protecting us. We didnt have another domestic terror attack since 9/11.

It isnt an issue of being cavalier. It is just a matter of math. We fought a brutal war for 8 years and took 4000 casulaties. I say thats earns a medal.
The 9/11 attacks did not originate from Iraq.  If Saddam did one thing well, it was keeping al-Qaeda out of Iraq.
Most of the 19 hijackers have roots in Saudi Arabia.

We already know from your posts that you have a very low regard for human life, especially non-Americans.

No one should ever earn a medal for taking human life.
No one ever said 9/11 came from Iraq.

What we did say, and still say, is there was a regional threat. Starting a war there kept the fighting away from us and our allies.

It also forced them to commit to the ground. They had to put boots on the ground where we could blow them up.

It also disupted travel. A group of terrorists trying to get out of the region would have a much harder time of it.

I would love it if we had an Orbiting Death Star and could destroy our enemies with no loss to our lives. That is not possible.

If we are going to be a world power and defend our interests abroad American soldiers are going to die. Again simple math.

And if Bush was such a disaster why is Obama doing so many things the same?
11/6/2011 1:58 AM
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Posted by jiml60 on 11/5/2011 10:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/5/2011 11:53:00 AM (view original):
Murder isn't an accident.   

And "necessary" isn't your call unless you're Commander in Chief. 
You didn't say murder.

Necessary may not be my "call" but it is my opinion and unless the Commander in Chief gives us evidence to the contrary, I'm gonna stick with what I wrote.
I said "killed in the streets" so I'm not sure how that wouldn't include murder.

You're entitled to an opinion.  Just don't try to pass it off as fact.    As I said before, the War on Iraq was an EXTREMELY popular decision when it began.
11/6/2011 6:31 AM
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