Rebound/IQ/ATH Topic

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Anyway, back to the point, a couple of users were saying IQ wasn't that important. That they won games using defenses with D/C IQ. So I found two similar players, on the same team playing similar minutes, where the results weren't the same. They just had wildly different IQ. Since I'm switching D and they will have similar IQ under that D, I just thought I would like to see if the results are as similar as the players when the IQs match up.
12/30/2017 2:16 PM
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Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
I'm not saying you're wrong that IQ affects rebounding. I'm saying that you have no idea how to run an experiment to get a reliable conclusion.
I don't care what you're saying now. I want you searching for that post where I'm providing misinformation about HD.
Well I remember you talking about the impact of home court advantage awhile back. Saying that based upon some games you had during one particular season that home court advantage is worth 2-3 points.
If you want to dig it up, please do. But you'll be wrong. I said, using home/away games each season, that it appears to be 2-3 points on most but it can vary. IOW, I provided the basis/information for my thought so anyone could confirm/dispute it as they saw fit. I did not say "Home court advantage is worth 2-3 points" and stop at that point.

Try again.
Ah I was wrong. You said 3-5 points.

Based off of the point spread.
That's some damning evidence. Pretty much what I said I said. Try again.
12/30/2017 2:18 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/30/2017 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/30/2017 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 12/30/2017 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Why do tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum care what conclusions I draw or the sample size or the obvious flaws?

I'll play 13-14 games in M2M with the big difference in IQ. Then I'll finish the season in 3-2 zone with the same IQs. I expect the REB between two similar players to become more similar with equal IQ. If it happens, it works for ME. If it doesn't, I guess you can say "YOU WERE WRONG!!!" while ignoring the comments you've made saying that nothing will be proven.
Thing is, we won’t be able to say you were wrong because there will be no way to know if the rebounding difference had/has anything to do with IQ.
Aren't you already saying I'm wrong? What is going to stop you from doing it again in 3 weeks?
I’m not saying you’re wrong about IQ affecting rebounds, I’m saying your methodology is ******. You won’t get an answer regardless of the results.
I think I will. Why do you care?
It’s not really a matter of opinion.

It really is. If I say "Fire isn't hot" and believe it, it's not hot to ME. Which is the point.
Well, no. Fire is still hot, regardless.
12/30/2017 2:20 PM
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What’s with the redlines, snowflake?
12/30/2017 2:22 PM
MikeT23
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OK, if you say so.
12/30/2017 2:22 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/30/2017 2:22:00 PM (view original):
What’s with the redlines, snowflake?
Mike is going off the deep end.
12/30/2017 2:23 PM
MikeT23
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Nah, you shouldn't even be on the site let alone posting. So I thought I'd stop it.
12/30/2017 2:24 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Nah, you shouldn't even be on the site let alone posting. So I thought I'd stop it.
Says who? Are you in charge of WIS? Did you appoint yourself CEO of the forums?
12/30/2017 2:26 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:22:00 PM (view original):
OK, if you say so.
Again, it’s not me saying so, it’s a fact. Fire is hot. The earth is round. 6, 15, 27 games isn’t a big enough sample size to draw any conclusions about IQ’s affect on rebounding (putting aside the fact that we know it’s one of three or four factors).
12/30/2017 2:30 PM (edited)
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
I'm not saying you're wrong that IQ affects rebounding. I'm saying that you have no idea how to run an experiment to get a reliable conclusion.
I don't care what you're saying now. I want you searching for that post where I'm providing misinformation about HD.
Well I remember you talking about the impact of home court advantage awhile back. Saying that based upon some games you had during one particular season that home court advantage is worth 2-3 points.
If you want to dig it up, please do. But you'll be wrong. I said, using home/away games each season, that it appears to be 2-3 points on most but it can vary. IOW, I provided the basis/information for my thought so anyone could confirm/dispute it as they saw fit. I did not say "Home court advantage is worth 2-3 points" and stop at that point.

Try again.
Ah I was wrong. You said 3-5 points.

Based off of the point spread.
That's some damning evidence. Pretty much what I said I said. Try again.
You don't even remember what you say yourself.

In the quote above you said "it appears to be 2-3 points on most but it can vary".

In the link to a previous post you say "There was a 3-5 difference in the spread at home vs. away"

12/30/2017 2:26 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 12/30/2017 2:22:00 PM (view original):
What’s with the redlines, snowflake?
Someone hurt his feelings.
12/30/2017 2:27 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Nah, you shouldn't even be on the site let alone posting. So I thought I'd stop it.
Vigilante Mike to the forum rescue!
12/30/2017 2:27 PM
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Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 2:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
I'm not saying you're wrong that IQ affects rebounding. I'm saying that you have no idea how to run an experiment to get a reliable conclusion.
I don't care what you're saying now. I want you searching for that post where I'm providing misinformation about HD.
Well I remember you talking about the impact of home court advantage awhile back. Saying that based upon some games you had during one particular season that home court advantage is worth 2-3 points.
If you want to dig it up, please do. But you'll be wrong. I said, using home/away games each season, that it appears to be 2-3 points on most but it can vary. IOW, I provided the basis/information for my thought so anyone could confirm/dispute it as they saw fit. I did not say "Home court advantage is worth 2-3 points" and stop at that point.

Try again.
Ah I was wrong. You said 3-5 points.

Based off of the point spread.
That's some damning evidence. Pretty much what I said I said. Try again.
You don't even remember what you say yourself.

In the quote above you said "it appears to be 2-3 points on most but it can vary".

In the link to a previous post you say "There was a 3-5 difference in the spread at home vs. away"

And that's "misinformation"? Seriously, find one bit of misinformation about HD I've given.
12/30/2017 2:27 PM
MikeT23
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Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Nah, you shouldn't even be on the site let alone posting. So I thought I'd stop it.
Vigilante Mike to the forum rescue!
Just one thread. Cheaters gonna cheat but they might not get to post in threads I start.
12/30/2017 2:28 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 12/30/2017 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/30/2017 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Nah, you shouldn't even be on the site let alone posting. So I thought I'd stop it.
Vigilante Mike to the forum rescue!
Just one thread. Cheaters gonna cheat but they might not get to post in threads I start.
Oh Mike.
12/30/2017 2:33 PM
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