Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2020 6:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 6/16/2020 6:03:00 PM (view original):
Don't worry Todd. coriander is a fake clone. Probably Dino27...but it doesn't matter. Over half the people here are clones.

LOL, I was getting ready to take back what I said about this site having less toxicity than the rest of the interwebs...

Dougout seems to think I am somebody else. I have been on these forums for about a week. Nice to meet you :) (but I am still appalled by your comment about Colin Kaepernick)

Posted by wylie715 on 6/16/2020 6:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2020 5:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Uofa2 on 6/10/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 6/10/2020 7:22:00 PM (view original):

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick says he refused to stand during the national anthem Friday because of his views on the country’s treatment of racial minorities.

“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told NFL Mediaafter Friday’s game. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

The 49ers acknowledged in a statement that Kaepernick sat on the team’s bench during the national anthem before their game against the Green Bay Packers.

Doug thought this helped his point.

Since I'm probably the only 49er fan (at least on this thread) who was following the team when this happened, I feel like providing context.

Kaep had been told before the game that he had lost the starting job to, of all people, Blaine Gabbert. He slouched on the bench and pouted during the national anthem (conveniently ignored by the media). He didn't kneel, he didn't take a respectful stance based on religion (like Chris Jackson). He just slumped with his arms along the back of the bench, like a high schooler sleeping on the bleachers.

Once he was confronted by this lack of respect, his girlfriend pushed him to make it about black rights. I heard this from a black friend of the girlfriend, so take it for what it's worth. What he's done since then has wavered between soapbox activism (which isn't bad, on its own) and anti-cop rhetoric (the infamous socks)...

Is he better than many backups right now? Possibly, though the layoff will almost definitely hurt his biggest liabilities... accuracy and learning to read defenses. Is he so much better that he overcomes the hassle (and fan backlash) of a divisive activist..? That's for each owner to decide. Put it this way, rapists and abusers have been kept on rosters, but mainly from the star players.... rarely, if ever, has a backup with potential baggage been kept.

I'm a 49er fan and was following the team when all of this happened. Just out of curiosity, were you a first hand witness to any of this? No? Then you don't really know what happen. Just what you have been told. Not saying it didn't happen the way you said. I t may very well have. But I wasn't there, and neither were you.

I saw him sitting on the bench pouting (I didn't disagree with his position that Blaine Gabbert sucked), and was wondering why he wasn't on the line with his team during the anthem. So, YES, i was a first-hand witness if you count television (and a loser that watches exhibition games).

That being said, I think the playing/singing of the national anthem at sporting events is pretty pointless. I get it for the Olympics, you're representing your country... But for every... single.... game? I think it just gives attention whores an easy place to "take a stand"... figuratively.

(I'm also old enough to remember that Duane Thomas did it a generation ago... )

You know what's really weird? The pledge of allegiance in schools. That's cult-ish. I remember in elementary and middle school, we were forced to recite it every day. Forced nationalism is crazy.

I know they don't play the national anthem before Premier League games in England. Isn't the idea of playing the anthem before domestic sporting events kind of an American concept?

Then again, it's a private business, so they can do what they like. The national anthem stuff is manufactured outrage, in every sense of the word.

Posted by tangplay on 6/16/2020 6:39:00 PM (view original):
You know what's really weird? The pledge of allegiance in schools. That's cult-ish. I remember in elementary and middle school, we were forced to recite it every day. Forced nationalism is crazy.

I know they don't play the national anthem before Premier League games in England. Isn't the idea of playing the anthem before domestic sporting events kind of an American concept?

Then again, it's a private business, so they can do what they like. The national anthem stuff is manufactured outrage, in every sense of the word.

I remember the teacher got up every morning and read from the Bible. Then we had prayer.

Which version man?

And which Jesus did you pray to?
The teachers or??

I love the "well now after all this time and the rust is he really any good?" As if that negates the previous seasons.

Posted by toddcommish on 6/16/2020 6:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 6/16/2020 6:03:00 PM (view original):
Don't worry Todd. coriander is a fake clone. Probably Dino27...but it doesn't matter. Over half the people here are clones.

LOL, I was getting ready to take back what I said about this site having less toxicity than the rest of the interwebs...

Oh, you thought that after reading Doug's posts huh?

Posted by laramiebob on 6/16/2020 6:53:00 PM (view original):
Which version man?

And which Jesus did you pray to?
The teachers or??

Well, I don't know if you are serious or not. I suspect not. Let's play.

There was the Catholic Bible. I forget what writings that translated. Probably Greek. You would have to ask a Catholic.

We used the King James version although at that time the American Standard had come out.

There have been a few more since then. I use the New International Version as it translates the English used by King James into modern English.

I'll endeavor to give you some verses from it later.

I suggest you do a quick study/search on the different Bibles since the KJV. You might also go into a Christian book store and check out the Bibles.

The notes and references and supporting text is absolutely amazing.

Finally...There is only one Christ. He is the Son of God. Christ is God. God sent his son who died on the cross. Christ arose and rejoined his father in Heaven. His spirit remains here until his return. The Father. The Son. The Holy Ghost.

Hope that helps.

Shouldn't you be busy not cooking a cake for a member of the lgbtq community?

Posted by coreander on 6/16/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Shouldn't you be busy not cooking a cake for a member of the lgbtq community?

I'm glad you brought that up. What gives LGBTQ the right to hijack BLACK LIVES MATTER?

LGBTQ has no right to take over BLM. White racist liberals never know when to stop.

The white fragility is strong with this one

Posted by DougOut on 6/16/2020 7:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 6/16/2020 6:53:00 PM (view original):
Which version man?

And which Jesus did you pray to?
The teachers or??

Well, I don't know if you are serious or not. I suspect not. Let's play.

There was the Catholic Bible. I forget what writings that translated. Probably Greek. You would have to ask a Catholic.

We used the King James version although at that time the American Standard had come out.

There have been a few more since then. I use the New International Version as it translates the English used by King James into modern English.

I'll endeavor to give you some verses from it later.

I suggest you do a quick study/search on the different Bibles since the KJV. You might also go into a Christian book store and check out the Bibles.

The notes and references and supporting text is absolutely amazing.

Finally...There is only one Christ. He is the Son of God. Christ is God. God sent his son who died on the cross. Christ arose and rejoined his father in Heaven. His spirit remains here until his return. The Father. The Son. The Holy Ghost.

Hope that helps.

BUMP

The Crusades

Posted by coreander on 6/16/2020 7:32:00 PM (view original):
The Crusades

Why was there a crusades?