Savage II Commentary Thread Topic

Posted by bds9992 on 8/19/2020 10:35:00 PM (view original):
Somebody suggested Simmons for D'Angelo back in February. I usually don't listen to ESPN recommendations, but......honestly, I liked that one
No thank you, if you are Philly that takes a step back. Russell proved he needed the ball a lot, Philly has someone who needs the ball, plus Russell is unable to handle the pick and roll liken Ben can
8/19/2020 10:54 PM
Posted by bds9992 on 8/19/2020 10:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dBKC on 8/19/2020 10:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 8/19/2020 10:44:00 PM (view original):


"hey guys, my dad said i get to manage a team next savage draft"
Find a new slant
That saga was so ridiculous and satisfying at the same time. #HinkieDiedForOurSins
so well done...not surprising since the creators of zones are sixers fans
8/19/2020 10:56 PM
Posted by dh555 on 8/19/2020 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 24kpyrite on 8/19/2020 9:57:00 PM (view original):
DH, I know it had no bearing on tonight's game, but who do you trade Simmons or Embiid?
neither

i dont believe theres a realistic trade out there worth giving up either of them...who is this mythical good young 3pt shooting, shot creating guard that another team is willing to give up?

those are good young team controlled two way players who have superstar potential...if they ever get the right players/executives/coaches around them they could deliver a title
I mean, if you can get anything like the package OKC got for George, for either, I would do it in a heartbeat.

You may be right that no trade package really makes sense, but I'm not sure they're going anywhere with the two of them together. And gun to head - I'm trading Embiid. He's too inconsistent, his focus drifts, he's never been fully healthy and will likely be less healthy as he ages, and I'm just not convinced that you can build a title team around that player type right now. I would quietly shop him and see if you can get a team with some assets looking to make a big splash to go for him. Get a couple picks and either a great young player or a couple good ones.

Here's one that works, according to the ESPN trade machine: Embiid to the Nets in exchange for Spencer Dinwiddie, Caris LeVert, Deandre Jordan, and a future first.
8/19/2020 11:42 PM
Count of seasons used:
Durant 5
Chandler 5
Drexler 5
Porter 4
Okafor 5
Dalembert 4
Odom 4
Dragic 5
Przybilla 4
Granger 2
Armstrong 1
Ingram 1

I probably should have snagged some 2-3 season studs earlier instead of waiting until the end to do that in retrospect. Odom and Granger were two meh picks. Dalembert isn't blowing me away. Drexler and Porter I keep thinking about, but if I didn't get guards then I would have been really scrambling later I think.



8/20/2020 12:55 AM
You guys wanna do a 19-20 single season draft? I can run it if needed.

I was also thinking about pulling a list of guys who played in 18-19 but not in 19-20, and adding their 18-19 seasons to the draft pool since we might be a little tight on minutes without them. Most of these guys were out of the league for a reason, so think of them as G-Leaguers/depth
8/20/2020 9:17 AM
Posted by dBKC on 8/20/2020 9:17:00 AM (view original):
You guys wanna do a 19-20 single season draft? I can run it if needed.

I was also thinking about pulling a list of guys who played in 18-19 but not in 19-20, and adding their 18-19 seasons to the draft pool since we might be a little tight on minutes without them. Most of these guys were out of the league for a reason, so think of them as G-Leaguers/depth
When we have run them the last few years we usually wait until the defense drop. Otherwise it comes in during the middle of the draft and mucks stuff up.

Either way, I am not doing anything until the ODL and SCPL drafts wrap up. I gotta stagger these drafts man.
8/20/2020 10:01 AM
That’s a good call. Let’s do one in a bit though.
8/20/2020 10:11 AM
Can’t believe my boy Oliver Miller went undrafted. I know he put on weight but damn. He was pretty useful for me in S1.
8/20/2020 10:59 AM
too many bad picks. I think this team knocks me out of Tier 1

minutes Name year DEF USG eFG O D A
PG 28 Luka Doncic 18-19 53 30.5 49.7 3.7 20.6 23
20 Magic Johnson 89-90 69 24.8 52.6 4.8 13.8 35.8
SG 34 Scottie Pippen 93-94 90 27.1 51.5 6.9 18.6 17.8
14 Buddy Hield 19-20 39 27.2 54.5 2.6 13.1 11.4
SF 16 Magic Johnson 89-90 69 24.8 52.6 4.8 13.8 35.8
15 Robert Covington 16-17 73 19.2 49.2 4.4 16.9 6.2
17 Buddy Hield 19-20 39 27.2 54.5 2.6 13.1 11.4
PF 11 Robert Covington 16-17 73 19.2 49.2 4.4 16.9 6.2
32 Carlos Boozer 03-04 42 20.2 52.4 9.2 25.3 7.8
5 Montrez Harrell 16-17 49 17.6 65.4 7.8 13.1 7.2
C 42 Bill Russell 58-59 74 15.5 45.7 11.5 28.1 8.1
6 Theo Ratliff 97-98 83 16 51.2 10.4 15.1 3.1
8/20/2020 11:48 AM
Undrafted from season one, by slot:
Horry, Robert 128
Battier, Shane 138
Turner, Myles 149
Westphal, Paul 150
Hayes, Elvin 151
English, Alex 155
Gasol, Marc 161
Worthy, James 162
Hornacek, Jeff 166
McCray, Rodney 171
Parker, Tony 177
Knight, Brevin 184
Adams, Alvan 187
Rice, Glen 194
Lafrentz, Raef 197
Havlicek, John 199
Smith, Kenny 203
Monroe, Greg 208
Lewis, Rashard 214
Hardaway, Tim 216
Brown, P.J. 221
Kukoc, Toni 224
Haywood, Spencer 225
Edge, Charlie 237
Mirotic, Nikola 238
Muresan, Gheorghe 239
Beasley, Michael 241
Thomas, Isaiah 243
Bonner, Matt 247
Ross, Terrence 255
Mills, Patty 256
Evans, Jeremy 257
West, Delonte 259
Phills, Bobby 265
Smith, Michael 2 266
VanVleet, Fred 267
Gross, Bob 270
Webb, Spud 273
Hawkins, Connie 274
Miller, Oliver 276
Bell, Raja 277
Donaldson, James 278
Kerr, Steve 280
O'Neal, Jermaine 282
Diaw, Boris 284
Gadzuric, Dan 285
Schrempf, Detlef 286
Harris, Tobias 288
8/20/2020 1:37 PM
Owner Avg. Min Median
bds9992 11.0 6
gerryred 24.8 10
dBKC 21.2 20.5
dskantor 105.1 46
24kpyrite 113.4 40
tarheel1991 99.3 74.5
ashamael 37.8 9.5
mikee1 120.9 73
goetz93 43.0 16
mptrey 62.3 21
amerk1180 57.8 11.5
pexetera 119.7 106.5
robusk 11.7 7
dh555 36.5 23
pharrop 70.5 73
cmcafeeky 204.3 116
albiband0 199.1 85.5
jcred5 74.1 45
jpevans31 15.8 5.5
benhoidal 4.7 2.5
20ks 147.2 67.5
jhsukow 65.5 20.5
longtallbrad 166.7 146.5
ysw128 146.1 93
8/20/2020 1:38 PM
4.7 minutes, Ben? I don’t know if I’m impressed or concerned
8/20/2020 2:09 PM
Posted by ashamael on 8/20/2020 2:09:00 PM (view original):
4.7 minutes, Ben? I don’t know if I’m impressed or concerned
Concerned is the right answer.
8/20/2020 2:11 PM
Btw Michael Smith 2 absolutely got drafted because I cussed when I saw that
8/20/2020 2:12 PM
Posted by ashamael on 8/20/2020 2:12:00 PM (view original):
Btw Michael Smith 2 absolutely got drafted because I cussed when I saw that
Oh yeah, I don't think I added the 2 when I recorded the pick.
8/20/2020 2:19 PM
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