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Posted by LoboOne04 on 7/13/2020 11:27:00 AM (view original):
I have a player who was out of options and at the ML level. I DFA'd him and he passed through waivers without being claimed. I thought I could then assign him to a minor league team, but an error occurs saying he may only be assigned to the big league team due to his current contract and option status.

Is there any work-around here, or am I just going to have to release the guy?
It has nothing to do with the options, it's called "veteran's consent." In real life if a player has five full years major league service he can't be sent to the majors without his consent regardless of options. Not sure what the exact rule in HBD is; not even sure it shows up in the FAQ or knowledge base.

So yeah, you have to hold, release, or trade him.
7/13/2020 12:35 PM
Posted by damag on 7/13/2020 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by LoboOne04 on 7/13/2020 11:27:00 AM (view original):
I have a player who was out of options and at the ML level. I DFA'd him and he passed through waivers without being claimed. I thought I could then assign him to a minor league team, but an error occurs saying he may only be assigned to the big league team due to his current contract and option status.

Is there any work-around here, or am I just going to have to release the guy?
It has nothing to do with the options, it's called "veteran's consent." In real life if a player has five full years major league service he can't be sent to the majors without his consent regardless of options. Not sure what the exact rule in HBD is; not even sure it shows up in the FAQ or knowledge base.

So yeah, you have to hold, release, or trade him.
He doesn't even have four years of ML service yet, though. Here's the guy:

https://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=8717142
7/13/2020 12:51 PM
What happened to cresten???
7/13/2020 8:45 PM
Posted by bjschumacher on 7/12/2020 9:43:00 PM (view original):
He is not a real person. He has no emotions. So no, it does not help. (circa MikeT).
Well, of course, but if they want this game to be more realistic then these sorts of things should make some sort of effect. Not saying the effect should be positive EVERY time, sometimes benchings in RL **** off the player and make them not want to re-sign. But mostly they seem to light a fire. The game would be markebly better if they made it more realistic in this way IMHO
7/14/2020 10:06 AM
Posted by LoboOne04 on 7/13/2020 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by damag on 7/13/2020 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by LoboOne04 on 7/13/2020 11:27:00 AM (view original):
I have a player who was out of options and at the ML level. I DFA'd him and he passed through waivers without being claimed. I thought I could then assign him to a minor league team, but an error occurs saying he may only be assigned to the big league team due to his current contract and option status.

Is there any work-around here, or am I just going to have to release the guy?
It has nothing to do with the options, it's called "veteran's consent." In real life if a player has five full years major league service he can't be sent to the majors without his consent regardless of options. Not sure what the exact rule in HBD is; not even sure it shows up in the FAQ or knowledge base.

So yeah, you have to hold, release, or trade him.
He doesn't even have four years of ML service yet, though. Here's the guy:

https://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=8717142
His waiver status is "none" so he didn't pass through waivers although you can see the transaction where you waived him. Status would have to be "cleared" to assign him to the minors.
7/15/2020 12:17 PM
I had to drop my medical down to 16 (training is still 20). Player Profile: Joaquin Lunar - Hardball Dynasty Baseball | WhatIfSports - his injury is a perfect candidate- dropped one in most categories that could jump 1-2 with the 60 day DL move. My question is will it work now? I’ve heard they have tinkered with it and I only have $16mm in medical.
7/16/2020 6:56 AM
My estimate would be that 16 million Medical should be just enough to get him back to pre-injury but you likely won't get any extra benefit from it.

7/16/2020 7:38 AM
Here's a Budgeting data point I've seen by accident, make of it what you will:

This season, due to the current status of both my teams, I ended up budgeting 12 million International scouting for both. As we all know, budgeting at less than 20 million gives you both 1/ less reliable("accurate") projections and 2/ a lesser number of prospects seen.

The projections I've seen have been as unpredictable as expected. Most are wild overratings, with weird imbalances. Nothing unusual based on my previous experiences with low budget.

In both worlds, based on the players who have been signed by everyone, the International pool has looked about the same quality and number. That, as always, can be expected to be random. This season it's just happened that they seem quite similar.

The one unexpected result which I've not had a chance to see before: Team A saw twice as many prospects as Team B. Only one example, but it introduces the possibility that this is yet another variable of reduced scouting budget.





7/16/2020 7:49 AM
Posted by damag on 7/16/2020 7:49:00 AM (view original):
Here's a Budgeting data point I've seen by accident, make of it what you will:

This season, due to the current status of both my teams, I ended up budgeting 12 million International scouting for both. As we all know, budgeting at less than 20 million gives you both 1/ less reliable("accurate") projections and 2/ a lesser number of prospects seen.

The projections I've seen have been as unpredictable as expected. Most are wild overratings, with weird imbalances. Nothing unusual based on my previous experiences with low budget.

In both worlds, based on the players who have been signed by everyone, the International pool has looked about the same quality and number. That, as always, can be expected to be random. This season it's just happened that they seem quite similar.

The one unexpected result which I've not had a chance to see before: Team A saw twice as many prospects as Team B. Only one example, but it introduces the possibility that this is yet another variable of reduced scouting budget.





Don’t you think 20/0 (I prefer college but either way works) vs 10/10?
7/17/2020 6:39 PM
Draft ranking question. In general what can you expect for prospects who are "Unknown. He wasn't scouted well enough" in relation to the lowest ranked prospects who were scouted and ranked. Are any of the Unknown prospects possibly better prospects and is it worth ranking them above the lowest projected prospects on my list.
7/21/2020 6:26 PM
Posted by hokiefan55 on 7/21/2020 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Draft ranking question. In general what can you expect for prospects who are "Unknown. He wasn't scouted well enough" in relation to the lowest ranked prospects who were scouted and ranked. Are any of the Unknown prospects possibly better prospects and is it worth ranking them above the lowest projected prospects on my list.
It’s a lot of extra work, but when I used to draft with 20 million HS scouting I’d only see about 200 to 240 projections. The rest were all “?”, so they’d be ranked lower down. But I got tired of blowing 10th round picks on players who’d never even be good enough for AA. So, like I said extra work, after I got done ranking my top prospects I’d start shuffling all the crap prospects to the bottom, lower down than the “?” I’d rather take my chances on lottery ticket players.
7/21/2020 6:55 PM
Posted by damag on 7/21/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by hokiefan55 on 7/21/2020 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Draft ranking question. In general what can you expect for prospects who are "Unknown. He wasn't scouted well enough" in relation to the lowest ranked prospects who were scouted and ranked. Are any of the Unknown prospects possibly better prospects and is it worth ranking them above the lowest projected prospects on my list.
It’s a lot of extra work, but when I used to draft with 20 million HS scouting I’d only see about 200 to 240 projections. The rest were all “?”, so they’d be ranked lower down. But I got tired of blowing 10th round picks on players who’d never even be good enough for AA. So, like I said extra work, after I got done ranking my top prospects I’d start shuffling all the crap prospects to the bottom, lower down than the “?” I’d rather take my chances on lottery ticket players.
I tried doing this one season.
As damag says - a whole lot of extra work and time.
I remember reading a few posts where people did have good lottery picks from that process. two cases if I remember correctly.

7/21/2020 9:54 PM
Ninety-nine percent of the time, the guys that are '?' turn out to be like this guy. However, about one percent of the time, you might get lucky and get a guy like this guy. A lot of work to lineup your draft board for what is basically a lottery ticket. However, if you have the time, go for it.
7/21/2020 10:52 PM
Posted by damag on 7/16/2020 7:49:00 AM (view original):
Here's a Budgeting data point I've seen by accident, make of it what you will:

This season, due to the current status of both my teams, I ended up budgeting 12 million International scouting for both. As we all know, budgeting at less than 20 million gives you both 1/ less reliable("accurate") projections and 2/ a lesser number of prospects seen.

The projections I've seen have been as unpredictable as expected. Most are wild overratings, with weird imbalances. Nothing unusual based on my previous experiences with low budget.

In both worlds, based on the players who have been signed by everyone, the International pool has looked about the same quality and number. That, as always, can be expected to be random. This season it's just happened that they seem quite similar.

The one unexpected result which I've not had a chance to see before: Team A saw twice as many prospects as Team B. Only one example, but it introduces the possibility that this is yet another variable of reduced scouting budget.





Twelve million for each right? One team saw twice as many prospects? Can you tell if it was a quality vs. quantity thing?
7/21/2020 11:20 PM
Posted by hokiefan55 on 7/21/2020 6:26:00 PM (view original):
Draft ranking question. In general what can you expect for prospects who are "Unknown. He wasn't scouted well enough" in relation to the lowest ranked prospects who were scouted and ranked. Are any of the Unknown prospects possibly better prospects and is it worth ranking them above the lowest projected prospects on my list.
I would add that this is all relative -- what is defined as low? A guy that can't hit, can't pitch and can't field shouldn't be drafted anywhere so yes, i would put some lottery ticket guys ahead of him. However, the real question you have to ask yourself is how high are you willing to place a lottery pick over a guy that you see that might not make the MLB roster, but if your scouts are underrating him, he could turn out to be a contributor at the MLB level. Also, what about your minor leagues, do you care if you have just a bunch scrubs in the minors? Some of those guys that you draft in the third through twelfth round help your minor league squads compete. You start drafting lottery picks, then you might have to get more creative filling your minor league squads if you are hoping that they compete.
7/21/2020 11:29 PM
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