Ridiculous Sim Levelling. Topic

Here's 2006 Mike MacDougal, sure it's a small sample but hey, he's got only 29 IP so it's about a third of his contribution. I don't care how well he does the rest of the way, it won't make up for this;

4/26 pmTrim tha Busch1000.12600100100000.00.5003.00view
4/27 pmShattering Dreams1000.11300100000000.00.3331.50view
4/28 amKantscore Runs1001.031210000001000.00.1670.60view
4/29 am___BLUE___1001.041600100101100.00.2221.13view
5/4 pmPredator1000.141201022300006.00.3852.00view
5/5 amDodging Trollies1001.03900100000004.50.3131.50view
5/5 pm2Harry's All Stars1001.041000111110005.40.3001.40view
5/6 amHarry's All Stars1001.062200111301006.00.3461.67view
5/7 amPATENT PENDING1001.031000100000005.14.3101.43view
5/8 pmClubber Langs' All-Stars1000.241300022211007.04.3331.57view
5/9 pmPitching Challenged1001.031300100001006.23.3061.38view
5/10 pm2Smashmouth1001.03800100000005.59.2821.24view
5/13 amShattering Dreams1000.152001044200209.00.3101.60view
Season Totals--10.04515412910101325309.00.3101.60--
5/13/2009 5:25 AM
Small sample sizes and high cap leagues...

High cap leagues are going to make even the best pitchers unpredictable. One 1994 Maddux could have a WHIP of 1.10, another 1.40, and that's in the same park with 200+ IP.

As to small sample sizes... Please, spend some time learning probability.

5/13/2009 7:55 AM
at what point does the sample size stop being small?
5/13/2009 8:13 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By biglenr on 5/13/2009
Small sample sizes and high cap leagues...

High cap leagues are going to make even the best pitchers unpredictable. One 1994 Maddux could have a WHIP of 1.10, another 1.40, and that's in the same park with 200+ IP.

As to small sample sizes... Please, spend some time learning probability.





I don't know about big caps, all I play are 80 mil and at this level even the greatest pitchers are unpredictable. And about small sample sizes, like I said, when a pitcher's got 30 IP what are the odds he's going to get bashed that bad in his first 10??
5/13/2009 8:21 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Trentonjoe on 5/13/2009at what point does the sample size stop being small?

I think somewhere around 6.5-6.75 inches.
5/13/2009 9:36 AM
don't tell my wife that....
5/13/2009 9:55 AM
Quote: Originally posted by biglenr on 5/13/2009
Please, spend some time learning probability.

Exactly.

If WIS let us use pitchers with 10 innings in RL, and there was some pitcher who had Milacki-like stats for those 10 innings, you'd have someone whining about how half a season in his 10-inning stud had a 9.00 ERA in 5 innings.

"Yeah, but it's already HALF A SEASON!"

Owners can accept 5-10 bad innings from Bob Caruthers, because they know he's got hundreds more coming. But when it's a reliever, it's somehow "ridiculous" that he'd have 5 or 10 bad innings.
5/13/2009 12:58 PM
Well, I guess we'll have to live with WhateverIfSports happens, having said that I've been using that same pitcher in many teams and he's usually close to his numbers. Maybe that's why when he suddenly gets trashed repeatedly you start scratching your head and wonder why the funk it keeps happening to him now...
5/13/2009 4:12 PM


Especially astute observations on Game Design from baldric -



Quote:Originally Posted By baldric on 4/24/2009

I think it was me who pointed out the game strategy vs baseball startegy issue. The basic idea isn't mine though, is stems from the fundamental game design rule "mechanics drive gameplay".

In this case the mechanics for fatigue and AB/IP limits and other related systems don't achieve the goal of promoting baseball-like game play. That is not the fault of the players.

Many players are going to do what works best, and expecting otherwise is not realistic. Playing a game within the rules as set up by the designer is most certainly not cheating. It may, however suck the fun out of the game for those players who don't want to use optimum but non-baseball tactics, which is a flaw with the game and could well result in a loss of players to games that provide a better baseball "feel". But, again, that is the game designer's fault, not the fault of any player.

The only real solution is to rework the game mechanics to that they appropriately reward baseball-like strategies. Hopefully that will happen.



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looking for Roberto Clemente / Curt Blefary comparison initiated by grizzly_one



Zeke Bonura had very good fielding ratings when I drafted him for my Progressuve League team.



First baseman Zeke bonura hit for average and power during his seven year big league career but was known to lack effort as a fielder.

Bonura excelled at several sports during his younger years. As a teen, he was the 1925 National AAU Champion in the javelin throw, defeating 1924 Olympic gold medalist Johnny Myra, and set an American record (213 feet, 10 1/2 inches), which stayed on the books until 1930. He went on to attend Loyola University New Orleans, where he was on the baseball, football, basketball, and track teams. In the minors, he was the 1933Texas League MVP while playing for the Dallas Steers.

The Chicago White Sox purchased Bonura's contract following the 1933 season, and he responded by hitting .302 with 110 RBIs and a then team-record 27 homers (which also stood as the Sox rookie record until Ron Kittle broke it in 1983). In 1936, he drove in 138 runs, also a White Sox record until Albert Belle broke it in 1998.

Over four seasons in Chicago, Bonura hit .315 and smashed 79 home runs. However, he was a liability in the field. Despite leading AL first basemen in fielding two times, he had little range and a reputation for a lack of effort: he often would simply wave his glove at ground balls as they came past, what became known as "the Bonura salute". He also angered Sox management with annual salary holdouts during Spring Training. Prior to the 1938 season, he was traded to the Washington Senators for Joe Kuhel, one of the best fielding first basemen of the era.

With the Senators in 1938, Bonura hit 22 homers and had 114 RBIs before being traded to the New York Giants after the season. After being sent to New York, Bonura was quoted as saying "Now I won't be able to sign my letters Senator Henry J. Bonura, Democrat, Louisiana."






10/18/2009 5:49 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 5/08/2009I've only played 1 live league, but nothing seemed funny to me. Things always seem a lot more dramatic when you have to watch it unfold before your eyes. In a reg. league, I can look at a blown save or a 14 innings loss and will probably just belch and set my team up for the next game as usual, but when something like that happens live, I sometimes feel like killing small animals....slowly...or maybe quickly but more violently...or lighting my computer on fire...or opening up a window and yelling F***!!! really loud so my neighbors can share my frustration...(do I have issues?). But I didnt notice any unusual numbers by anybody when all was said and done.
10/18/2009 7:29 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By footballmm11 on 5/06/2009sometimes i think users on this site would be happier if their .300 hitters actually got .3 hits every time they came up.
10/18/2009 7:30 PM
this was a fun thread
8/16/2010 3:21 AM
it was a fun thread when it was "live"...that is when it ran from 5/52009 until 10/18/2009....times when one wanted to get up from the computer and scream "idiot!!!" but now re-reading it I just belch and reset my teams.
8/16/2010 9:22 AM
Posted by boogerlips on 8/16/2010 3:21:00 AM (view original):
this was a fun thread
My  much wiser 2011 self disagrees with 2010 Booger, this was a very fun thread.
10/11/2011 11:19 PM
Posted by boogerlips on 10/18/2009 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Quote: Originally Posted By footballmm11 on 5/06/2009sometimes i think users on this site would be happier if their .300 hitters actually got .3 hits every time they came up.
Awesome
10/11/2011 11:25 PM
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