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12/30/2009 11:43 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by seble on 12/30/2009FYI, we've released some changes relevant to this thread:

http://www.whatifsports.com/locker/site_updates.asp?sport=HD


Now if only transfers are increased. I'll have to test the waters on this one because I'm not sure I fully understand whats changed. If a player is promised they have to play? What if they are hurt, or fail for half the season? Its not that hard to have players miss whole seasons if you set your depth chart right or don't give them SH minutes. Will be interesting to see if because someone misses say 10 games for whatever reason if they will complain. If not, then you can still get by with promises and not living up to them.
12/30/2009 11:53 AM
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12/30/2009 11:55 AM
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12/30/2009

  • Closed the loophole of redshirting a player to avoid fulfilling recruiting promises. Players who were promised minutes or a starting spot will always be angry now if a coach redshirts them. Also, redshirted players will now be included in the pool of players who may complain if they're not getting their promised minutes/starting spot.
12/30/2009 11:56 AM
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CHEATER
12/30/2009 11:56 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by zhawks on 12/30/2009<H4>12/30/2009</H4>
  • Closed the loophole of redshirting a player to avoid fulfilling recruiting promises. Players who were promised minutes or a starting spot will always be angry now if a coach redshirts them. Also, redshirted players will now be included in the pool of players who may complain if they're not getting their promised minutes/starting spot.



I am not sure what the statement "redshirted players will now be included in the pool of players who may complain if they're not getting their promised minutes/starting spot." How can redshirted players get promised minutes? I assume this means that the player will complain about being redshirted if he was promised minutes, but that is what the first statement said.
12/30/2009 12:13 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by emy1013 on 12/30/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 12/30/2009 After all this time, furry is still cheating. Some things never change. Good to know that his success means absolutely nothing, since he hand to resort to underhanded tactics to achieve it. Carry on.


qft.
12/30/2009 12:26 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by dalter on 12/30/2009Well, first off, that's a pretty straightforward answer. I guess it took getting this bit of dirty laundry aired (and I'm guessing tickets from a couple angry people, though I don't know) to have them prioritize the fix. And emy, pain meds and all, you make a good point re: the press. I would agree that it's too strong in the current engine. Same thing with the -5, which for years many coaches have felt was glitchy (and many simply won't use because of that). mlat, I respect your opinion, I just think it's a much finer line than your approach indicated. There are a lot of shades of gray in HD.

Something being too strong/weak in the game engine is not the same as someone doing an intentional act to circumvent the system. That's not a shade of gray.
12/30/2009 12:29 PM
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So much for CS telling furry he was ok to do this... Nice try though.
12/30/2009 12:33 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by mlatsko1 on 12/30/2009
Quote: Originally posted by emy1013 on 12/30/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 12/30/2009 After all this time, furry is still cheating. Some things never change. Good to know that his success means absolutely nothing, since he hand to resort to underhanded tactics to achieve it. Carry on.
qft.
12/30/2009 12:34 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/30/2009

12/30/2009

  • Closed the loophole of redshirting a player to avoid fulfilling recruiting promises. Players who were promised minutes or a starting spot will always be angry now if a coach redshirts them. Also, redshirted players will now be included in the pool of players who may complain if they're not getting their promised minutes/starting spot.


Great move!
12/30/2009 1:44 PM
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Furry should be stripped of all his wins.
12/30/2009 2:06 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By bvb24 on 12/30/2009Furry should be stripped of all his wins
How about we just Barry Bond's it and add an asterik?
12/30/2009 3:44 PM
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12/30/2009 4:30 PM
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along those lines, that is also why i am in favor of an open door policy regarding the existence of pulldowns and whatnot. when i started the game, i read one post on the forums that clued me in, and by 2nd season could already out recruit any coach who was not aware, by a wide margin, even with a c+ prestige. and that was most coaches, i believe. it is just absolutely ridiculous to me that some people try to keep that kind of stuff hush hush (not as ridiculous as those who rush screaming to meet those who speak out, with CS quotes to prove them wrong, despite having never tried themselves, but ridiculous all the same). i feel the underlying mechanics, the basic options you have, are not something would should hide. mostly, it screws the new guys, which is pretty horrible for the game. that is why i don't understand the hundred times (literally) someone posted something about a fairly fundamental mechanism, only to have a couple people chime in, "hush hush"
12/30/2009 4:36 PM
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