Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/13/2010In HBD, you can easily sell your share every three months and find a better joint.

No, I can give my share away and get no return on my investment. Big difference.

Your investment ends when the season ends. You'll get a credit, if you earned one, or you won't. If you want to re-invest, that's your decision. If you don't like the product being sold, I'd recommend looking into a new product.

However, I do think I see the problem. You feel, once you play one season and presumably plan for future seasons, that you're entitled to those future seasons. You aren't. This may be a dynasty game but worlds are more like college classrooms. The room is still there each year but damn near everything in that room can change when the year ends.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/13/2010However, I do think I see the problem.   You feel, once you play one season and presumably plan for future seasons, that you're entitled to those future seasons.   You aren't.   This may be a dynasty game but worlds are more like college classrooms.   The room is still there each year but damn near everything in that room can change when the year ends.

Can change? Yes. People can choose not to participate. Nobody is banned from class forever because the teacher is PMSing that day. People are welcome if they choose to participate. Same thing here. Commishes don't own the worlds.

I think you failed to comprehend the analogy. That class ended. Another one is beginning. You can't take the same course again and expect the same people, same teacher, same curriculum. It changes from year to year. You many not like it the next year.

Commishes have very little power. The biggest one is the ability to determine who is allowed to play in the world the next season.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/13/2010I think you failed to comprehend the analogy.   That class ended.  Another one is beginning.  You can't take the same course again and expect the same people, same teacher, same curriculum.   It changes from year to year.  You many not like it the next year.Commishes have very little power.  The biggest one is the ability to determine who is allowed to play in the world the next season.

That's probably the only power they shouldn't have. If I don't like the class next year, I won't join. If I like the class but hate the teacher, I may still join to get what I want out of the class. Regardless, it is my decision, not someone else's.

Here's what I would suggest(because I know you don't carry much weight with customer support. I know that they've told you that you're a problem):

Get 16 owners to send a ticket requesting a change in commish. I think, if that happens, it will show ADMIN that more than half of the world thinks the commish is an issue. I think they would act on that.

Actually it is the absolute best power they can have. Problem owners can be eliminated thus making the majority of the world happy. That's a good thing.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/13/2010Here's what I would suggest(because I know you don't carry much weight with customer support.  I know that they've told you that you're a problem):Get 16 owners to send a ticket requesting a change in commish.   I think, if that happens, it will show ADMIN that more than half of the world thinks the commish is an issue.   I think they would act on that.

I don't think you know as much as you think you know. I may not have much support from CS, but I do from higher up than the people answering the initial tickets. Trust me - I'd have been booted from one league a long time ago for speaking out against a lot of bad things going on if I didn't. The commish tried. I'm still there. So I know what they say, and I know the reality of the situation.

Square peg, round hole.

Stop trying to drive it in, and find the square hole.

I know you've posted a ticket where the responder said(paraphrased): "Trouble seems to follow you from world to world. Did you ever think that you may be the problem?"

And what death said.

What you're doing is saying a sammich tastes like cow dung and then ordering another sammich while hoping the sammich maker can be changed.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/13/2010I know you've posted a ticket where the responder said(paraphrased):  "Trouble seems to follow you from world to world.   Did you ever think that you may be the problem?"

Yep. Then it was looked at by higher ups and I'm still in that league despite efforts by the commish to remove me. That was low level CS and their antagonistic approach when they are questioned on their answer.

I guess when I have $200 invested in a league, I expect better solutions or at least efforts from CS. Maybe that's my biggest mistake.

You've bought 8 seasons. It's up to you if you want a 9th. What you're expecting is everyone to make sure your needs to attended to above everything else. So, yeah, that's a mistake.