Bang the Kettle Drum Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010

YOUR FIRST SENTENCE IN THIS THREAD WAS:

"Can someone attempt to explain this?" THAT ISN'T ASKING FOR HELP, THAT'S TELL ME WHY I GOT BEAT JUSTIFIABLY AND NOT SCREWED...do you get it yet?

You have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that you don't have the ability to determine which results are reasonable and which aren't. You have zero credibility on the issue. I'm just saying by no means should I have lost that game, period...that's all I'm saying. You want to justify that crap, fine...don't tell me I should have lost that game.

And that's what we've all done, explained to you why the result wasn't crazy.

In the first graph above you wrote: "TELL ME WHY I GOT BEAT JUSTIFIABLY".

In the second graph above you wrote: "You want to justify that crap, fine...don't tell me I should have lost that game.."

Too funny for words.
4/26/2010 1:14 PM
Colonels, I would still run uptempo for a game just to see what happens you had a athleticism and speed advantage the last 2 games and didnt use it and give Manon a start at the 3 to see what happens. Tweaking with the roster a little might give you a boost in ppg since your avg'ing 51ppg over the last 2 and gives you a solid ball handler at the 3 decent passer and in mid 60's ft there.
4/26/2010 1:14 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 4/26/2010colonels - ok, i got the defense wrong. so you that 7/16 from 3s was definitely a significantly above average performance. but not even close to mind boggling, either.

i think the problem here is that you are asking for an explanation, and then when you don't like it, ignore the explanation and say you don't want help. that doesn't make any sense. i have tried to reason with you for quite some time and if that is your attitude, i suppose there is no reason to continue. if you ask for an explanation, you are asking for help, plain and simple. You're totally off base here, I'm asking you to justify an unjustifiable result to me. Just because you all have reasons DOESN'T MEAN that those reasons are GOOD ENOUGH to justify the end result....that's what you're not getting. I don't agree that this result is justified, and because you all disagree with me, I'm wrong...that's hilarious to me.

finally, you just seem unwilling to accept the fact that when two teams play in a random number generator driven sim, the chance of one team winning can not be 100%. it just can't be. even my team could lose to that sim. sure, its a 99.9% or better we would win. but that means sometimes, we would lose. there is NEVER a match up that there is "no way in hell" you should lose, to quote you. and again, your team is not good. their team is not good. that's not an insult, but it really suggests this is not a huge upset. there is no way you were even a 95% favorite. you know what, my team loses games they were more likely to win that yours, pretty much every season. when i have the best team in the country, i don't demand they go 35-0. in fact, its only happened once, out of a pretty large number of teams that had a bigger advantage over #2 than you had over this sim. the simple fact of the matter is, and you just need to accept this, even if you are a 99% favorite, you will still lose sometimes. that is how a sim works, that is how its supposed to work. if you wrote a sim that didn't work that way, it would be a broken piece of **** and nobody would play it. It was a W all day, every day, period. I get how a sim works, and for a 1 in a million result to screw me is just incredibly hard to stomach at this moment.
4/26/2010 1:15 PM
Quote: Originally posted by dcy0827 on 4/25/2010Changing gears just a bit, Gill, I've seen you say in this and a couple of other threads that you think normal tempo is generally the way to go and that uptempo was usually a bad choice.  Would you care to elaborate at all?  I'm sure there are a lot more coaches than just me who would be interested in your theories.

alright emy, ill give it a shot. but i don't want to do it in this waste of time piece of crap thread that most people are hopefully already ignoring. so ill start a new one. i've been asked to do this a number of times before, but never got around to it. tempo is not a simple topic, so i won't be able to give you a short and sweet answer - so, prepare yourself for a long one :)
4/26/2010 1:16 PM
YOU think that was one in a MILLION, COlonels? Oh my lord, what, you think you were an NBA team playing Cal Polytechnic?
4/26/2010 1:16 PM
If by one in a million you mean one in 5 or 10, then I'm with you.
4/26/2010 1:16 PM
Anyone who reads this thread will have learned everything about Trevor that they need to know.
4/26/2010 1:18 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 4/26/2010

Translation: I'm too lazy to bother game planning, so I schedule teams I don't think I should have to bother game planning against. And then I will ***** to high heaven when my laziness bites me in the ***.
Completely false...its called playing the way I want to play, period.
this is the key - a win was highly likely if one played in a manner designed to maximize the odds of winning - if one takes the posture that I will play the way I want to play, we are in what I would call a "Tin Cup" situation...remember that movie....saw it again the other day.....you of course can play the way you want to play.....just like Tin Cup
4/26/2010 1:18 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/26/2010

YOUR FIRST SENTENCE IN THIS THREAD WAS:

"Can someone attempt to explain this?" THAT ISN'T ASKING FOR HELP, THAT'S TELL ME WHY I GOT BEAT JUSTIFIABLY AND NOT SCREWED...do you get it yet?

You have demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that you don't have the ability to determine which results are reasonable and which aren't. You have zero credibility on the issue. I'm just saying by no means should I have lost that game, period...that's all I'm saying. You want to justify that crap, fine...don't tell me I should have lost that game.

And that's what we've all done, explained to you why the result wasn't crazy.

In the first graph above you wrote: "TELL ME WHY I GOT BEAT JUSTIFIABLY".

In the second graph above you wrote: "You want to justify that crap, fine...don't tell me I should have lost that game.."

Too funny for words.

I don't get what's funny about this...I reserve the right to determine whether the justification fits the bill or not...you attempted to justify it, and I say after looking closely at that justification, I still shouldn't have lost. Just because you have an explanation for something DOESN'T MEAN that it justifies the result in question, understand that. I'm not simply going to agree with everything just because BETTER PLAYERS SAID SO.
4/26/2010 1:19 PM
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4/26/2010 1:19 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 4/26/2010

SO because WE disagree with YOU we're wrong, and the possibility that you could be isn't even one to be considered? No, just because you attempt to justify something, doesn't mean that its justified, it means that you tried your best to justify it.Tell me Colonels, just for giggles, what you think an acceptable score in that game would have been?
AASU by 1 (can still debate that) or more.
4/26/2010 1:22 PM
. . right. YOu took the coward's way out.
4/26/2010 1:22 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 4/26/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By coach_billyg on 4/26/2010
colonels - ok, i got the defense wrong. so you that 7/16 from 3s was definitely a significantly above average performance. but not even close to mind boggling, either.

i think the problem here is that you are asking for an explanation, and then when you don't like it, ignore the explanation and say you don't want help. that doesn't make any sense. i have tried to reason with you for quite some time and if that is your attitude, i suppose there is no reason to continue. if you ask for an explanation, you are asking for help, plain and simple. You're totally off base here, I'm asking you to justify an unjustifiable result to me. Just because you all have reasons DOESN'T MEAN that those reasons are GOOD ENOUGH to justify the end result....that's what you're not getting. I don't agree that this result is justified, and because you all disagree with me, I'm wrong...that's hilarious to me.

finally, you just seem unwilling to accept the fact that when two teams play in a random number generator driven sim, the chance of one team winning can not be 100%. it just can't be. even my team could lose to that sim. sure, its a 99.9% or better we would win. but that means sometimes, we would lose. there is NEVER a match up that there is "no way in hell" you should lose, to quote you. and again, your team is not good. their team is not good. that's not an insult, but it really suggests this is not a huge upset. there is no way you were even a 95% favorite. you know what, my team loses games they were more likely to win that yours, pretty much every season. when i have the best team in the country, i don't demand they go 35-0. in fact, its only happened once, out of a pretty large number of teams that had a bigger advantage over #2 than you had over this sim. the simple fact of the matter is, and you just need to accept this, even if you are a 99% favorite, you will still lose sometimes. that is how a sim works, that is how its supposed to work. if you wrote a sim that didn't work that way, it would be a broken piece of **** and nobody would play it. It was a W all day, every day, period. I get how a sim works, and for a 1 in a million result to screw me is just incredibly hard to stomach at this moment.


And conversely, just because you don't like the explanations that you've been given doesn't make them wrong.

When you've got a bunch of highly successful coaches telling you the same thing, you think there may be something to their points? But since you don't "like" the answers you're getting, you put your hands over your ears, disregard all the rational answers, and scream like a little kid that "this was a slam-dunk win, a gimme, I got screwed, waaaah, waaaah, waaaah". Arguing just argue. And doing a bad job of it, I might add.
4/26/2010 1:23 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By arssanguinus on 4/26/2010. . right. YOu took the coward's way out.
Nope, that's the honest to God's truth...if I won by 1, I wouldn't be here right now, period.
4/26/2010 1:23 PM
But lets run with that. Say you had won by one. Would it be INCONCEIVABLE! that you could have missed ONE more jump shot than you did in that case, or that he could have made ONE more? If you can win by one, you can also lose.

4/26/2010 1:24 PM
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