Posted by ermocito on 11/21/2023 11:41:00 AM (view original):
Draft Order - note that r3 r4 start from the bottom. If sabotaging someone else, do so their in their draft spot, so round 2 begins with BeAllEndAll assigning a bad team to kentol.

	AL East	r1	r2	r3	r4	d1	d2
1	kentol	R1	BeAllEndAll	midknight	R4	jbar8888	mavioric12
2	mavioric12	R1	kentol	BeAllEndAll	R4	midknight	jbar8888
3	jbar8888	R1	mavioric12	kentol	R4	BeAllEndAll	midknight
4	midknight	R1	jbar8888	mavioric12	R4	kentol	BeAllEndAll
5	BeAllEndAll	R1	midknight	jbar8888	R4	mavioric12	kentol
	AL West
6	_jwillis	R1	Beernoser	claytonengelby	R4	Ribbentrop	eman7400
7	eman7400	R1	_jwillis	Beernoser	R4	claytonengelby	Ribbentrop
8	Ribbentrop	R1	eman7400	_jwillis	R4	Beernoser	claytonengelby
9	claytonengelby	R1	Ribbentrop	eman7400	R4	_jwillis	Beernoser
10	Beernoser	R1	claytonengelby	Ribbentrop	R4	eman7400	_jwillis
	NL East
11	vilefileman	R1	3dayrotation	jonstephen25	R4	redcped	lennyistall
12	lennyistall	R1	vilefileman	3dayrotation	R4	jonstephen25	redcped
13	redcped	R1	lennyistall	vilefileman	R4	3dayrotation	jonstephen25
14	jonstephen25	R1	redcped	lennyistall	R4	vilefileman	3dayrotation
15	3dayrotation	R1	jonstephen25	redcped	R4	lennyistall	vilefileman
	NL West
16	jpeterso	R1	whalers10	calhoop	R4	seay00	ermocito
17	ermocito	R1	jpeterso	whalers10	R4	calhoop	seay00
18	seay00	R1	ermocito	jpeterso	R4	whalers10	calhoop
19	calhoop	R1	seay00	ermocito	R4	jpeterso	whalers10
20	whalers10	R1	calhoop	seay00	R4	ermocito	jpeterso

It says that Round 3 and 4 start from the bottom. I would have first pick in Round 4.

I just wanted to confirm - r3 and r4 go from 20 to 1.
Whenever you draft a team to sabotage someone else, you do so based on their original draft slot.
So, in the near future, BeAllEndAll will start R2 with sabotaging kentol.
As a reminder, the best sabotage team might not always be the worst available team - it might be a team which offers no major help because the weaknesses are parallel.
My r1 pick will come pretty soon.

1967 SF Giants

It is my time slot but I will wait a little longer for seay00 to make his pick.

However, I did want to reiterate what whalers10 eluded to. Round 4 should be the exact reverse order as Round 1. No shuffling like the gifting rounds.

Looked at 1 team. And looking no further. 1927 New York Yankees.

Posted by seay00 on 11/23/2023 5:35:00 PM (view original):
Looked at 1 team. And looking no further. 1927 New York Yankees.

2 albatrosses but a lot of other talent too. Good luck.

My turn now.

Taking the 1957 Baltimore Orioles.

People have been quite prompt - thank you!
Just whalers to go then r1 is complete this evening.
For round 2, let's see if it works not to have a schedule. Just pick as quickly as you can. If it has been more than 12 hours since the pick before you, the next person can jump ahead.
Saboteur Sabotee
1 BeAllEndAll kentol
2 kentol mavioric12
3 mavioric12 jbar8888
4 jbar8888 midknight
5 midknight BeAllEndAll

AL West
6 Beernoser _jwillis
7 _jwillis eman7400
8 eman7400 Ribbentrop
9 Ribbentrop claytonengelby
10 claytonengelby Beernoser

NL East
11 3dayrotation vilefileman
12 vilefileman lennyistall
13 lennyistall redcped
14 redcped jonstephen25
15 jonstephen25 3dayrotation

NL West
16 whalers10 jpeterso
17 jpeterso ermocito
18 ermocito seay00
19 seay00 calhoop
20 calhoop whalers10

Alright! Round 2!
Please help backchannel the person after you when you sabotage.
I might do it sometimes, but I might not always be prompt as someone who just posted.

So kentol took the 1967 St. Louis Cardinals. Nice pick. One of my highest rated teams in this iteration. Lots of pitching. But they are a $76M team. Not sure you can roster all of your available hitters above $5M but you have some nice options and quite a bit of flexibility. IMO you can fill 7 of 8 starting positions, 4 starting pitchers, and 2 relievers. 4 of your starting positions are $5M and up. Two are at or above $6.0M. What you need is a 3B, some RP’s, and maybe cheaper options at 1B, C, and in the OF.

At 1^st I thought to give you one of those 1927, can’t pitch and hitters don’t normalize well teams but they tended to fill your team nicely since you don’t need much pitching. I saw a few 1977 candidates that looked painful but with some workable pieces. Then I came across the 1947 Chicago Cubs. Their best players are: 1B Eddie Waitkus (you have Cepeda), and OF’s Andy Pafko, Phil Cavaretta, and Bill Nicholson (You have Brock, Flood, and Maris). You do get a very cheap 3B option in Peanuts Lowery but you’ll need to give him some support since he only has 519 PA’s.

Past those 5 this team doesn’t offer much. Their best pitching option has a 3.49 ERC# but hey, that might be ok in this league. There are 6 sub-$1M players on this team so maybe that helps?

Interesting note on Eddie Waitkus. He was shot in the chest by a young female fan in 1949, critically wounding him. The incident is said to have inspired the Bernard Malamud novel, The Natural, released 3 years later.

Good luck kentol. Maybe Waitkus will turn out to be another Roy Hobbs!

mavioric12's choice of the '27 Pittsburgh Pirates was an excellent pick - I don't know how I missed them myself. Good hitting options at every position except catcher and good possibilities for back-ups at 2B,C, and OF. The Waner brothers are a little pricey, though. As far as pitching is concerned, I see 3 or 4 possible starters you can use and I like Miljus in your bullpen.
I'm looking to stick you with a team that won't help your powerful offense and especially won't provide you with any decent pitching. Let's keep you back in 1927 with the 1927 Boston Red Sox. You'll get Wiltse, Ruffing, Jacobsen, Myer - just not exactly their best seasons...

mavioric12 has assigned the 1977 Oakland Athletics to jbar8888.

It is my first time doing this league and I already enjoy it and thank you mavioric for the magnificent 1977 A's. ;) I found a team that just looks terrible and being my first run at this I will let you all be the judge of that. I am awarding the 1977 Toronto Blue Jays to midknight as they just look horrible from every angle. Maybe Bob Bailor maybe of use but I am not sure much else. Enjoy!

BeAllEndAll - the strategy was simple after your choice of the pitching heavy-weak hitting 1967 White Sox: select another weak hitting team without adding to your strong pitching. I decided to award you with the 1967 Not-So-Amazing New York Mets. I am giving you a decent Tom Seaver and a quality reliever in Ron Taylor, but you already have that with your CWS. For hitting, the Mets mirror your White Sox and simply, they're bad. As a team they only scored 3.1 runs per game, which was .2 runs lower than your high-flying CWS. Good luck!