Tea Party 4-18-11 Topic

Posted by moy23 on 9/26/2010 11:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by antonsirius on 9/26/2010 11:07:00 AM (view original):
It's right there in the original article. wr. "DOE says that the Ohio-based company was not up to snuff technology-wise for this project." Now maybe you believe that's just "the French are cheaper/more efficient" using different words, but when it comes to uranium enrichment I'd think better technology would mean less waste product
the frenchies run some 80% of their nation on nuclear power - its sad the US is still so stuck on high pollutant coal.

and I actually agree with anton. If the US company wants to get up to snuff for government handouts they can first raise capital by increasing shares or finding private lenders.  As for the shipping jobs over seas argument - anyone that believes that the job market is not a worldwide market is living in a cave.  If you want to make higher paying jobs in the US more attractive than cheap labor overseas you have to provide a value (technology, efficiency, speed, tax offsets) to accommodate the higher labor costs.... we just don't do that, instead we whine that we are losing jobs to foreign countries.  we are only losing jobs to foreign countries because they are more attractive incentive-wise to US companies - not because US companies want to outsource for the hell of it.  

Most of the time the biggest factor in manufacturing jobs going overseas is the massive reduced cost of obeying enviro regs. Also the reduced risk of future enviro cost. If we had stiff tariffs on products and resources that come from plants that do not meet or exceed our enviro regs, the playing field would be even.
 
Now the French. They probably exceed our enviro regs, so that sould not apply in this case. However, it does apply with the majority of imports.
9/28/2010 9:30 AM
OK - off shoot to this quandry - should a private company even be in this type of business?  Or isn't this something better off done through the government?

9/28/2010 9:51 AM
It seems set up as a mix - the facilities are run (and the tech developed) by private companies, but there are VERY tight restrictions on who can join the club, who they can sell the technology to etc.
9/28/2010 3:08 PM
9/29/2010 1:26 PM
Posted by rcrusso on 9/29/2010 1:26:00 PM (view original):
"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's"

No one wants people to stop helping people and charity to stop. We want it to come from people and not from a government agency that taxes beyong the abilities of Americans and attachs agenda driven strings to the money!

Glen Becks rally to Restore America raised money for a charity, remember.
9/29/2010 6:25 PM
Posted by rcrusso on 9/29/2010 1:26:00 PM (view original):
I doubt this cartoonist graduated college. Unless it was Harvard or Yale.
10/1/2010 4:23 PM
Or somewhere in the California University system!
10/1/2010 4:26 PM
Posted by mykids_31206 on 10/1/2010 4:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 9/29/2010 1:26:00 PM (view original):
I doubt this cartoonist graduated college. Unless it was Harvard or Yale.
It's the guy that created Mother Goose & Grimm... what'd you expect?

You'll probably like this one better though:


10/1/2010 6:20 PM
Posted by antonsirius on 9/28/2010 3:08:00 PM (view original):
It seems set up as a mix - the facilities are run (and the tech developed) by private companies, but there are VERY tight restrictions on who can join the club, who they can sell the technology to etc.
As it should be (unless it is completely controlled by the govt).

Similar to how public utilities should be operated I guess, although here in SW Ohio there is a utility company (Duke Energy) that seems to be running amok with their price changes.
10/1/2010 9:02 PM
This is making the rounds this morning.. amazingly well done, whether you agree with the satire or not:

Donald Duck vs Glenn Beck
10/3/2010 12:35 PM
Posted by antonsirius on 10/3/2010 12:35:00 PM (view original):
This is making the rounds this morning.. amazingly well done, whether you agree with the satire or not:

Donald Duck vs Glenn Beck
What exactly is well done. It dies look like an old cartoon.

It is written for people that hate Beck already. It isnt clever or insightful in any way.
10/3/2010 8:14 PM
The impact of Citizens United:

The $80 million spent so far by groups outside the Democratic and Republican parties dwarfs the $16 million spent at this point for the 2006 midterms. In that election, the vast majority of money - more than 90 percent - was disclosed along with donors' identities. This year, that figure has fallen to less than half of the total, according to data analyzed by The Washington Post.

The trends amount to a spending frenzy conducted largely in the shadows.

The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics.

10/4/2010 10:57 AM
Posted by antonsirius on 10/4/2010 10:57:00 AM (view original):
The impact of Citizens United:

The $80 million spent so far by groups outside the Democratic and Republican parties dwarfs the $16 million spent at this point for the 2006 midterms. In that election, the vast majority of money - more than 90 percent - was disclosed along with donors' identities. This year, that figure has fallen to less than half of the total, according to data analyzed by The Washington Post.

The trends amount to a spending frenzy conducted largely in the shadows.

The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics.

I suppose that's what happens when you campaign on how corporations are so evil. Is it any wonder that this is happening?
10/4/2010 12:18 PM
That's about the most feeble attempt at a justification I've ever seen from you, moy. I expect better.
10/4/2010 12:33 PM
I'm not justifying it. I just wonder if dems even considered the repercussions for villianizing big business. Corporations more than likely spent billions to lobby for more clout in the political arena and they got it.... now thy are financing republicans to get dems out of office. Cause and effect. That's all I'm saying.
10/4/2010 12:52 PM
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