Flames Thread: Scoring is overrated Topic

Even before the 03-04 run that made Darryl the god in Calgary, there was an obsession with the Sutters... Brian as HC, the scouts.. I dont get it, never have

Sutter is done I hope this year... He should have been fired the minute he traded for Jokinen out of Phoenix
12/17/2010 1:39 PM
smeric got to ask... did you watch the game?... I know I am used to seeing that Phiona last night from Calgary last season, is that what has everybody excited in TO or does he play differently there?
12/17/2010 1:42 PM
Sadly, I missed the game last night due to holiday obligations.

To be honest, aside from the very rare hit, he's really been a non-factor on the ice here - but then that is true for most of our blueline.  We have a blueline that SHOULD be tough to play against from a physical aspect (Phaneuf, Komisarek, Beauchemin), but aside from Schenn they are pretty disappointing physically.  Phaneuf shook things up when he got here and we needed that ... my continued hope is that he is simply in a developmental "phase" right now ... I think everyone knows we don't have the Phaneuf from the WJC a few years back, or the Phaneuf from his first couple seasons in Calgary - we just hafta hope he reverts BACK to that player sometime soon.  Regardless, he's better than what we had.

I hope to see a change behind the bench someday soon ... nothing against Wilson, but he's done nothing to inspire me in his tenure here.  God I miss Pat Burns.
12/17/2010 3:33 PM
Posted by smeric on 12/17/2010 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Calgary's biggest (and pretty much only problem IMO) is their hard-on for men with the last name "Sutter" ... I've said that for a long time.  The transactions of the past two seasons have been ridiculous - acquiring Jokinen to begin with, the contract to Stajan, RE-SIGNING Jokinen after already knowing what you are getting are all ones that immediately come to mind ... not sure what the Sutter family has on the ownership group of the flames but MY GAWD they should have been gone a LONG time ago.  Your city deserves FAR better.  Was shocked to see them actually trade away the Sutter kid after that cabbie incident - I fully expected to see him buried in the A for awhile til it blew over.
That's it, keep trying to deflect attention away from absolute Leaf suckiness by trying to point the finger at someone else.  Leaf fans have loved doing that forever (because they have sucked forever)  hey hey everybody look!  There's another team over there that's not doing very well!  Look at all the crappy things they've done! 
Not going to work...sorry!   Leafs are THE league laughing stock, live with it.  And now they've found a niche as the Bruins farm team.
12/17/2010 11:14 PM
Do you *think* ... Ever ... Before you post? No one is deflecting anything ... I'm a hockey fan in a Calgary Flames thread ... That post was a valid observation of the current situation in Calgary without malice. I am not a blind, rabid Leaf fan, son, so unless you're gonna stop being a ******** keep your mouth shut.

You're just as bad as the "a**hole" Leaf fans you rail against so don't try that holier than thou crap with me.
12/18/2010 12:53 AM
Its a dead heat in my bet with Nickhead, though i detest the Leafs im hoping those pathetic mother f#ckin c#ck itch pricks edge out the Flames by 1 point so i win my bet? what was it again? $50 Nickhead..i totally forgot
12/18/2010 1:20 AM
Yeah, I do think. As a matter of fact, I get paid a lot of money to think and I do it all the time.  What will even make you happier is that you contribute to paying me lots of money to think.  Feel better?  No malice you say, then mind who "should" be doing what on your own team.  Not surprising that you are talking that way since your own GM took it upon himself to dictate how Flames fans should react to Phaneuf.  OOPS! sorry, I forgot, you're the center of the universe so you get to tell everybody what to do and how to do it.  My mistake.
12/19/2010 5:09 AM
holer, I don't care who you are or what you do in real life.  In our society, even stupid people can find a way to get paid lots of money - doesn't make them any less stupid.

My posts are never derogatory, and are from the perspective of a hockey fan.  The person I am, the hockey fan I am, is not predicated on my geography, or what team I grew up watching.  If you are not "big" enough to accept a critique of your team from outside YOUR little universe then perhaps a public forum is not the right arena for you.  If you read ALL my posts, you will see I criticize Toronto also ... probably with more "malice" than I criticize other teams.  Why?  Because I care about them more, not because the person *I* am is tied to a sports team's success.  I *know* Toronto has sucked the last few years, I *know* they've sucked pretty much for 45 years (except for an all too brief period in the early 90's) - it doesn't make me care about them any less and it doesn't mean I cannot make observations about other teams.

Yes, Toronto's GM made a comment defending one of his players.  Shocking.  A boss defending one of his employees!  What else is he supposed to do, moron!  Doesn't change the ridiculous decisions made by other GMs, say for example in Calgary.  Stop being a blind, defensive sheep and accept that people outside your geography just might have insight on *your* team.  I've never stupidly lashed out at you for your seeming man-crush on Phaneuf or your hatred for Toronto ... why?  Because it's your opinion, everyone has one (just like everyone is/has an *******) - some of what you say is true, most of it is mindless drivel, but this is the place to vent.  Vent away, son, vent away.

I am done responding to you and you will be blocked, son.  My life is too short to waste it on people not worthy of my time.  Good day.
12/19/2010 10:41 AM (edited)
Bull.  Your little diatribe is pointless and a load of crap.  You know why I came at you?  Because countless others come in here and crap all over your beloved Leafs and their players, and you are silent about it.  I mentioned a few things about the Leafs and Phaneuf in particular a few months ago and both you and idiot gregos attacked me personally for it.  I have a long memory.  I've heard juskay, randle, styckman, nickhead etc etc etc all take shots at your team and you say nothing, but since your personal attack on me because of knowledge I have about Phaneuf, any claims from you about taking some form of "high road" are falling on deaf ears. Suck it up .
12/19/2010 11:11 PM (edited)
I think perhaps you've confused me with our good friend "deathinahole" ... I don't "come after people" until situations like this one come along.  I've just searched all my posts from the past year (and there aren't very many of them) and I see nowhere where there are posts from me that fit your description.  Whatever .... that's where the whole "think before you post" come into play.

If you show me something where I have blindly "defended my "beloved" Leafs in a fashion you are currently trashing me for then I will gladly step up and accept responsibility, but I am confident there are not any.
12/19/2010 11:32 PM
You've decided I cannot comment on the Flames at all because I am a Leaf fan.  That's ridiculous.  You've obviously allowed your blind hatred of all things connected to "the centre of the universe" to cloud your sense of reason.

I am silent on most posts ... there are always gonna be people that hate the Leafs, just like there will always be people who hate the Yankees, or Patriots, or Raiders, or Canadiens, or Canucks ... you can't waste your time responding to them all or that is all you will ever spend your time doing.

And a couple of the users you specifically list I respect so they can let fly with whatever they wish in my eyes.  You were never on my radar, one way or the other, until this.  Can pretty much see why now.
12/19/2010 11:41 PM
Posted by holer on 12/19/2010 11:11:00 PM (view original):
Bull.  Your little diatribe is pointless and a load of crap.  You know why I came at you?  Because countless others come in here and crap all over your beloved Leafs and their players, and you are silent about it.  I mentioned a few things about the Leafs and Phaneuf in particular a few months ago and both you and idiot gregos attacked me personally for it.  I have a long memory.  I've heard juskay, randle, styckman, nickhead etc etc etc all take shots at your team and you say nothing, but since your personal attack on me because of knowledge I have about Phaneuf, any claims from you about taking some form of "high road" are falling on deaf ears. Suck it up .
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12/20/2010 12:53 AM
Liar.  You said you were rooting for the Sharks this year.
12/20/2010 5:36 AM
Posted by smeric on 12/17/2010 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Calgary's biggest (and pretty much only problem IMO) is their hard-on for men with the last name "Sutter" ... I've said that for a long time.  The transactions of the past two seasons have been ridiculous - acquiring Jokinen to begin with, the contract to Stajan, RE-SIGNING Jokinen after already knowing what you are getting are all ones that immediately come to mind ... not sure what the Sutter family has on the ownership group of the flames but MY GAWD they should have been gone a LONG time ago.  Your city deserves FAR better.  Was shocked to see them actually trade away the Sutter kid after that cabbie incident - I fully expected to see him buried in the A for awhile til it blew over.
I agee with this ....

-Getting Jokinen in the first place...not a problem. PROBLEM was what he cost.. a 1st round pick? No way he was worth that (I'm not talking hindsight). I said it when they got him, they paid too much
-Trading him to Rangers for Kotalek.. Second worst trade in Flames history (and not by much!!!). Rangers must been laughing all the way on that one..SUCKERS!!!!
-Signing him again as a FA in the off season??? What's the heck is Sutter SMOKING??!!

Also, Sutter has proven time and time again unable to develop young talent. Look at the past 1st round picks over the last decade... where are they all now??

Let's face it this team is STUCK in neutral and so long as Mr Sutter is the GM, this will not change..

They 'spun' the trading of the Sutter kid as relieving the pressure of playing with the Family here. Is that the truth??? Doesn't really matter, it was part of a salary dump...
12/20/2010 11:36 AM
Wow.. I missed trash talk... dangit..
12/20/2010 12:30 PM
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