Quote: Originally Posted By nickhead on 5/12/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By raucous on 5/12/2010

The Canucks put too much faith in Luongo. The defense can be aggressive offensively, but they were standing around way too much defensively. One of the goals, the defense was on a Sunday skate, with wind blowing through their beards.

And never trust Luongo... always mails it in with big games.

Unless its for the gold meda

Quote: Originally Posted By juskay on 5/12/2010
Forwards signed for next season:

Sedin Sedin Samuelsson

Burrows Kessler Bernier

Hordichuk Rypien Grabner

Hodgson!

Restricted Free agents who will be resigned with a pay raise:

Raymond Hansen and possibly Tanner Glass?

D-men signed for next season:

Bieksa Salo

Edler Ehrhoff (Baumgartner, Alberts are signed god help us if either makes the team)

RFA's who will be re-signed:

O'Brien and Rome

Goal Luongo signed and Cory Schneider RFA

Let's assume that our RFA's get a pay raise that collectively total's 4 million? That will leave the Canuck's aprox. 7 million to spend on free agents.

We need at least 2 quality D-men and 7 million may not be enough cap room to get 2 defencemen, unless we find a team dumping salary, which is how we got Ehrhoff last season.

The above group of players is essentially the same team Minus some depth forwards. We better hope we can sign 2 D-men and a couple of cheap forwards or next season will be shorter than this season as the play-offs may be a stretch......July 1st 2010 Gillis better get us some D-men.

There is alway's plan B. (Randle will like)

Trade Luongo for a sack of pucks and use his 10 million cap hit (new cap space 17 million) to get Cory Schneider 2 stud defencemen and a first line forward........Assuming you can find a taker for Luongo..

Quote: Originally Posted By paul71 on 5/12/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By juskay on 5/12/2010

Forwards signed for next season:

Sedin Sedin Samuelsson

Burrows Kessler Bernier

Hordichuk Rypien Grabner

Hodgson!

Restricted Free agents who will be resigned with a pay raise:

Raymond Hansen and possibly Tanner Glass?

D-men signed for next season:

Bieksa Salo

Edler Ehrhoff (Baumgartner, Alberts are signed god help us if either makes the team)

RFA's who will be re-signed:

O'Brien and Rome

Goal Luongo signed and Cory Schneider RFA

Let's assume that our RFA's get a pay raise that collectively total's 4 million? That will leave the Canuck's aprox. 7 million to spend on free agents.

We need at least 2 quality D-men and 7 million may not be enough cap room to get 2 defencemen, unless we find a team dumping salary, which is how we got Ehrhoff last season.

The above group of players is essentially the same team Minus some depth forwards. We better hope we can sign 2 D-men and a couple of cheap forwards or next season will be shorter than this season as the play-offs may be a stretch......July 1st 2010 Gillis better get us some D-men.

There is alway's plan B. (Randle will like)

Trade Luongo for a sack of pucks and use his 10 million cap hit (new cap space 17 million) to get Cory Schneider 2 stud defencemen and a first line forward........Assuming you can find a taker for Luongo..

I think we will see more changes than listed.

NO change in goal though, Luongo has a no trade clause, and is a 5.3 mil cap hit per year for the next decade. He aint going unless he tells the club he wants to.

Biggest needs are a number 1 and number 2 D man. As wll we need an upgrade somewhere at forward, either a solid 2nd line calibre player, or 2 solid third line players who can penalty kill.

Personally, I think Bieksa and O`Brien should go. Yes they are tough in the regular season, but cost us games in the playoffs. They are 5-6 d-men at best and their salary is too much for that. Alberts stays because his cap hit is low enough for a 6-7 D man. Salo`s salary is also too high for what he brings so shuold go. Most of the forwards are at reasonable cap hits for their skill level. I see one of the small fast forwards being traded for a D man upgrade. Raymond may become too expensive to keep and we have 3 or 4 clones of him waiting in the wings

Quote: Originally Posted By deltagorfers on 5/12/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By nickhead on 5/12/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By deltagorfers on 5/12/2010

randle...for all your talk about Luongo throughout this last year I have got to say that I think you might be right. Started thinking that way down the stretch but was too optimistic to fully embrace those thoughts. No longer. Roberto had 2 or 3 great games these playoffs. The rest of them he was either average or downright bad. For us to take the next step and get to final or even round 3 for that matter we need some consistancy in the crease. I wish we could trade him but would there be any takers at 6 or 7 mil a season or whatever he is making? I'd be happy resigning Raycroft and going with him and Schneider in a tandom until the better of the two takes over. The money we would save would help us shore up our defence which (after goaltending) was a big liability.

Other players we could part with include Demitra, Bernier, Johnson, Hordichuk, Alberts and yes, Willie Mitchell

What about Bieksa?... two goals last night were solely his fault

I really do still think Bieksa has what it takes to be on a top defensive pairing. I won't disagree that he was the goat a couple of times in game 7. In other games in the playoffs he was a big part of the difference in why we won. The freak skate cut injuries he has picked up the last few years has really hurt his game. If he can avoid getting deep muscle cuts he will be able to develop his game to the point where the good more than makes up for the bad. I'm willing to give him a 'free' pass


I agree. I also think that Luongo's hangnails have been hurting his game.