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If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

So, they screwed up no child left behind and they screwed up common core, but the third times a charm? As I said, every solution that you have had involves the government except for circle of hope. You will not be fruitful in your efforts to help people until you become proactive and eliminate the government mindset. Government makes situations worse.

If you feel that the arts are important, find like-minded people with financial backing and knowledge and offer it in your community. You could start it locally and over time expand it regionally and nationally. This is how real change occurs.

Except the FEAEC report corrects this. It states that failed government reforms are because of lack of oversight. This plan creates a federal oversight group that guarantees success.

You would benefit the most by assuming that is federal government is involved, it's a bad idea. When you learn this, you will become more proactive and be a force in the humanitarian world. Right now, you're just another misguided, good-hearted young person who isn't going to get a whole lot accomplished.

You have a lot of potential. Stop wasting it.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

So, they screwed up no child left behind and they screwed up common core, but the third times a charm? As I said, every solution that you have had involves the government except for circle of hope. You will not be fruitful in your efforts to help people until you become proactive and eliminate the government mindset. Government makes situations worse.

If you feel that the arts are important, find like-minded people with financial backing and knowledge and offer it in your community. You could start it locally and over time expand it regionally and nationally. This is how real change occurs.

Except the FEAEC report corrects this. It states that failed government reforms are because of lack of oversight. This plan creates a federal oversight group that guarantees success.

You would benefit the most by assuming that is federal government is involved, it's a bad idea. When you learn this, you will become more proactive and be a force in the humanitarian world. Right now, you're just another misguided, good-hearted young person who isn't going to get a whole lot accomplished.

You have a lot of potential. Stop wasting it.

Agreed!

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Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

I was quoting BL. Yes you are right. Chemists and scientists obviously. My point is that it is career centric and should not be required in HS.

Math and science teach you how to think and are musts. Critical thinking is highly underrated. History, English, Language...people can memorize but science and math you cannot. You need to understand how to problem solve. Those classes are critical. Bad_Luck hates himself and most others I would try to ignore 99.9% of his posts. I actually feel sorry for people like him.

It's the other way around. History, english, language, speech, forensics, I am advocating for a critical thinking class, all of these things teach critical thinking. Where I went, science and math is memorization. I had to memorize tons of formulas and rocks that I never used. You are on the right track, but you have it backwards.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

I did give you evidence but you dismissed the source. All evidence against DJT are from biased sources but you don't dismiss them. Your post proves my pts. 100%. Which is fine. You gotta do you.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

So, they screwed up no child left behind and they screwed up common core, but the third times a charm? As I said, every solution that you have had involves the government except for circle of hope. You will not be fruitful in your efforts to help people until you become proactive and eliminate the government mindset. Government makes situations worse.

If you feel that the arts are important, find like-minded people with financial backing and knowledge and offer it in your community. You could start it locally and over time expand it regionally and nationally. This is how real change occurs.

Except the FEAEC report corrects this. It states that failed government reforms are because of lack of oversight. This plan creates a federal oversight group that guarantees success.

You would benefit the most by assuming that is federal government is involved, it's a bad idea. When you learn this, you will become more proactive and be a force in the humanitarian world. Right now, you're just another misguided, good-hearted young person who isn't going to get a whole lot accomplished.

You have a lot of potential. Stop wasting it.

Most of the time, I do assume this. I don't want the fed. govn't intervening in major ways in things like poverty. But the Fed govn't are the only ones who can solve school funding. Read the For Each and Every Child Report. The federal government regulates and gives money to states who fairly fund, and they also create an overseeing agency to ensure that the reforms mean equitable support. The OECD and many others confirmed that this plan will work.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

I did give you evidence but you dismissed the source. All evidence against DJT are from biased sources but you don't dismiss them. Your post proves my pts. 100%. Which is fine. You gotta do you.

Evidence on what. I would appreciate it if you could reshare them!

When did I prove your points. Please explain.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

I was quoting BL. Yes you are right. Chemists and scientists obviously. My point is that it is career centric and should not be required in HS.

Math and science teach you how to think and are musts. Critical thinking is highly underrated. History, English, Language...people can memorize but science and math you cannot. You need to understand how to problem solve. Those classes are critical. Bad_Luck hates himself and most others I would try to ignore 99.9% of his posts. I actually feel sorry for people like him.

It's the other way around. History, english, language, speech, forensics, I am advocating for a critical thinking class, all of these things teach critical thinking. Where I went, science and math is memorization. I had to memorize tons of formulas and rocks that I never used. You are on the right track, but you have it backwards.

LOL WHAT?!?!?!? NO!!! Complex math equations cannot be memorized. You have to understand how to do it. If a train travels at 100MPH how far will it get in 100 hours? What I change it to a train travels at 100MPH for three hours then 75MPH for seven hours. How far does it travel? Unless you understand the concept of mathematics how can you problem solve. All English and History is memorization. LMAO. Dude, you really are challenged.

What high schools teach forensics?

Tangy, where did you go to college.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

I did give you evidence but you dismissed the source. All evidence against DJT are from biased sources but you don't dismiss them. Your post proves my pts. 100%. Which is fine. You gotta do you.

Evidence on what. I would appreciate it if you could reshare them!

When did I prove your points. Please explain.

http://www.dw.com/en/growing-anti-semitism-in-the-us/a-37755245
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/24/525398277/anti-semitic-incidents-up-86-percent-compared-to-same-time-last-year
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adl-report-anti-semitic-incidents-spike-in-2017-especially-after-charlottesville/
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584
https://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/antisemitism-the-longest-hatred

How much more do you need. Fact is we don't whine about. We excel.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

I was quoting BL. Yes you are right. Chemists and scientists obviously. My point is that it is career centric and should not be required in HS.

Math and science teach you how to think and are musts. Critical thinking is highly underrated. History, English, Language...people can memorize but science and math you cannot. You need to understand how to problem solve. Those classes are critical. Bad_Luck hates himself and most others I would try to ignore 99.9% of his posts. I actually feel sorry for people like him.

It's the other way around. History, english, language, speech, forensics, I am advocating for a critical thinking class, all of these things teach critical thinking. Where I went, science and math is memorization. I had to memorize tons of formulas and rocks that I never used. You are on the right track, but you have it backwards.

LOL WHAT?!?!?!? NO!!! Complex math equations cannot be memorized. You have to understand how to do it. If a train travels at 100MPH how far will it get in 100 hours? What I change it to a train travels at 100MPH for three hours then 75MPH for seven hours. How far does it travel? Unless you understand the concept of mathematics how can you problem solve. All English and History is memorization. LMAO. Dude, you really are challenged.

What high schools teach forensics?

Tangy, where did you go to college.

I agree. The issue is that I think that critical thinking could be used better in a critical thinking class. Math is great up until high school, but after that most don't need it. English is critical thinking, I don't mean grammar, I mean writing and literature. History is understanding and critically thinking from perspectives. English and History are not meant to be taught to a test. If you had a good teacher in these classes you would understand.

The one I went to did. It helped me out more than any class other than IB History.

I went to KU and a community college.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

I did give you evidence but you dismissed the source. All evidence against DJT are from biased sources but you don't dismiss them. Your post proves my pts. 100%. Which is fine. You gotta do you.

Evidence on what. I would appreciate it if you could reshare them!

When did I prove your points. Please explain.

http://www.dw.com/en/growing-anti-semitism-in-the-us/a-37755245
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/24/525398277/anti-semitic-incidents-up-86-percent-compared-to-same-time-last-year
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adl-report-anti-semitic-incidents-spike-in-2017-especially-after-charlottesville/
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584
https://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/antisemitism-the-longest-hatred

How much more do you need. Fact is we don't whine about. We excel.

I am going to ignore 1-3 and 5 because they are antisemitism and not institutional.

You clearly did not read #4. Its claims are that even ignoring antisemitism is institutional. Additionally, it says that antisemitism promotes an institutional culture. And this is likely true, however, they use a different form of institutional racism than I do. When we are talking about it, we mean laws that specifically hold them back, like redlining. This is still just arguing that antisemitism exists (Which I agree with) and that this is bad.

That explains a lot...

You are 100% wrong.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 11:00:00 AM (view original):
That explains a lot...

You are 100% wrong.

Why?

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

1 is correct.
I don't know where you are getting 2 from.
3 is correct. Wealthism also exists, and is more dominant, but redlining proves that institutional racism exists. The two tie together.
4 is misunderstood. It is more of an idealistic view that every person should financially be supported enough to support at least 2 kids.
5 is misunderstood. School funding equality will not solve poverty. Circles of Hope solves poverty.
6 is incorrect. I have said numerous times that antisemitism exists, however I do not think that institutional antisemitism exists.
7 is also misunderstood. I agree: Jews faced many hardships. However no evidence has been produced yet that showed that institutional antisemitism exists in the US.

I did give you evidence but you dismissed the source. All evidence against DJT are from biased sources but you don't dismiss them. Your post proves my pts. 100%. Which is fine. You gotta do you.

Evidence on what. I would appreciate it if you could reshare them!

When did I prove your points. Please explain.

http://www.dw.com/en/growing-anti-semitism-in-the-us/a-37755245
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/24/525398277/anti-semitic-incidents-up-86-percent-compared-to-same-time-last-year
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adl-report-anti-semitic-incidents-spike-in-2017-especially-after-charlottesville/
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584
https://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/antisemitism-the-longest-hatred

How much more do you need. Fact is we don't whine about. We excel.

I am going to ignore 1-3 and 5 because they are antisemitism and not institutional.

You clearly did not read #4. Its claims are that even ignoring antisemitism is institutional. Additionally, it says that antisemitism promotes an institutional culture. And this is likely true, however, they use a different form of institutional racism than I do. When we are talking about it, we mean laws that specifically hold them back, like redlining. This is still just arguing that antisemitism exists (Which I agree with) and that this is bad.

Show proof of current redlining laws LOL

One thing that I think most of us will agree upon is there isn't enough LIFE training in high school. Way back when I went, there was a Business 101 class that taught checkbook balancing, budgeting, comparison shopping, even some stuff on buying houses/insurance using amortization tables.

My kids graduated high school in 2011 and 2013, and didn't learn any of that USEFUL stuff in high school. But they both had to read crap like Heart of Darkness and The Scarlet Letter (and the accompanying Cliff's/Sparks Notes).

I just got off the phone with my daughter who wants to buy her own car, but knows little about down payments, interest rates, insurance, or budgeting. Granted, I accepted that role over 20 years ago as the financial teacher, but it sure would be nice if they would teach this kids USEFUL LIFE SKILLS, instead of Conrad's use of allegory on Marlowe's trip down the river.

(p.s. My daughter got a Liberal Studies degree on her way to a teaching credential, and she frequently complained about the political posturing of her professors. Apparently, they took "Liberal" studies literally, and were strongly pushing the liberal agenda... so I told her to write what they wanted to hear, and develop her own views.)