looking forward to it.

i forgot to check the final record v. wronoj - it was like 4-12 or something wasn't it?

never mind - still there - 4-13

Mt. Olive will have a long way to go!

smart of you to go to the other half of the conference-- this way i only get to beat you once a season.

is toby trying for Coker? it would be awesome to fill all 3 openings with good coaches...

anything i can do to delay the pain - you'll have me for sure the first 2 years at least as it is i am sure

i don't know about toby - he's talking about packing it in altogether...he's got a good returning squad with neumann so maybe after next season especially with bcnopolis moving up

trying to get him to try DII at least before packing it in

i think he should try it, unless he is just 100% sick of HD in general. definitely different there, and even moreso in d1.

damn dude - i did not know you were thinking about leaving hartwick!

i have been thinking about dropping one of my teams, and was having the least fun there. so, if i cannot have more fun getting beaten down in the Upstate, I will then just drop H&WS. your leaving made it easier, as does talk of edelman leaving the e8 and the recent loss of lucius and rusti there.

but the real kicker was when polo sent me a sitemail saying they had added gopokes, and that we should try to get 10 teams into the NT. sold!

wow - that's an insane conference now - i didn't look where you had went - just assumed it was DII...good luck - that will be a fun blood bath each season!

Here are the rankings through season 34. I messed up and don't have a saved copy of last season's rankings, and am too lazy to go back through the thread and put it together, so instead of previous, i am listing status (new or in danger if you miss next season, or both).

For the first time in ages, there is a tight race at the top, and SUNY-Maritime is poised to replace NC Wesleyan next season unless they have hugely different results in Wesleyan's favor.

Points	Ranking	School		Status
254	1	N.Carolina Wesleyan
252	2	SUNY Maritime
240	3	E. Oregon
235	4	Maranatha Baptist Bible (MBBC)
224	5	Montclair St.
223	6	W. Connecticut St.
223	7	Arcadia
220	8	Brandeis
215	9	Oberlin
214	10	Worcester St.
214	11	Baldwin-Wallace
212	12	Hartwick
208	13	Johns Hopkins
207	14	Chicago		danger
203	15	Sul Ross St.
200	16	New York U.
194	17	Calvin College
189	18	Manhattanville
185	19	Amherst
185	20	Washington
177	21	Alvernia
175	22	Mt. St. Joseph
171	23	Union
168	24	Emory		danger
165	25	Neumann College	danger

just missed:

162	26	Carthage College	danger
156	27	Emmanuel College
156	28	Westminster (PA)
155	29	Franklin College	danger
155	30	McMurry
154	31	Plattsburgh St.
152	32	Keuka		danger
137	33	St. Mary's of Maryland	danger
136	34	Thiel		danger
119	35	Edgewood	new/danger
115	36	Beloit		danger
110	37	Umass, Boston	new
109	38	Concordia, A	new
109	39	Texas, Tyler	new
109	40	St. Mary's (MN)	new
106	41	Elmira		new

Thanks for the time and effort you put into this.

congrats norm! i had mentioned to toby (neumann) how darned good your team looked at the start of the season...nice to see it played out that way...

too bad there isnt a Seinfeld College. I'd take over, just for the once a year rivalry game.

So...11 of 12 teams in the Upstate start out ranked...thats just silly.