Quote: Originally Posted By reinsel on 1/03/2010What is not concrete about the current system? Are you suggesting there is something random about it? There is nothing to my knowledge random. It is a straightforward calculation of effort x prestige x timing. Now all those calculations aren't shown, but were is the fun in that if I know I have put in 827 pts and my opponent is at 831? It would turn into an auction

Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 1/02/2010I call you two guys like I see you.  It doesn't really matter what you've done over the last 3, 4, 5 years or so, what matters is what I've seen PERSONALLY in the last month...and its a big smooch, smooch with WIS.  The current state of matters is what's most important.  Both of you guys think that any kind of dissenting opinion or opinions that you don't agree with are inherently wrong, and that really says enough about both of your guys' personalities.  I've used the word closed-minded before and I think it fits here too.  I'm not questioning the right or wrongness of what happened, I'm saying after analyzing the question as an objective human being, he seems to have a legitimate gripe, which you and zhawks tried to thwart IMMEDIATELY after he posted....you didn't even consider whether he had a legit gripe or not.Also, the eye test matters.  Let's say I'm a potential new customer prospecting the scene and I see a guy get beat out on recruiting that seems to have recruited harder than player B with a 1 or 2 half step letter grade difference, I'm going to second guess joining.  Seeing guys like you back that kind of claim would  probably stop me altogether.I would like to see a more concrete recruiting system...its really quite a crapshoot as is.  If it was more like the EA Sports format, I'd be happier...that makes sense to me...recruit a guy to your school based on prestige/location/coach prestige/coaching strategy/playing time, etc...have the 4 options hc visit, hc call, ac visit, ac call....give a team so many points based on prestige, schollies available, etc, and you have a better system than what's out there currently.  Surprisingly, I find the current recruiting format to be unnecessarily complex...there's really a lot of coin flipping.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 1/03/2010EA recruiting was a joke and WAY to easy. I quit after like 03 or so when the rattling stuff came in, but it was to easy in dynasty mode to sign nothing but 5 stars.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 1/03/2010The overall recuriting was dull and boring. Even with humans, it would suck. Not as many recruiting tools (visits, scouting trips, boosters, calls etc) and the interest level shown is to much spoon feeding for my liking.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/03/2010
If you seriously believe the recruiting is a crap shoot and a coin flip you clearly do know nothing about it

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/03/2010

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 1/03/2010 The overall recuriting was dull and boring. Even with humans, it would suck. Not as many recruiting tools (visits, scouting trips, boosters, calls etc) and the interest level shown is to much spoon feeding for my liking.

Good point with that spoon feeding too, part of the greatness of WIS recruiting system Nah, he doesn't laud WIS every time I see him post.... is you really don't know 100% of everything, whereas in EA you do. If you want to be spoon fed something then maybe HD isn't the game for you colonels. How is having more knowledge and making recruiting less of a CRAPSHOOT, spoon feeding me anything? Concreteness and a level of transparency...send me to the gallows! There are good reasons why some things are vague (ie letter ranges for prestiges, FSS reports and ect). It all adds to the fun and competition of recruiting. They're vague so WIS can cover their *** when something doesn't go "quite right".

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 1/03/2010
Colonels, stop being so closed minded. This is really what your arguments turn into, saying what I said to you in return...that's intelligent... How is recruiting not transparent enough? I think if guys saw an overall recruiting tally of who spent what, where the recruit was initially considering, etc...you wouldn't see posts like these from crazyivan, asking why he got screwed. If there's more transparency, WIS wastes less time answering sour grapes tickets like the aforementioned...thus more time to work on the game...get it? If you understand how to recruit you will know where almost every player will land and many times before recruiting even starts. That's funny, what are you clairvoyant?...in WIS' back pocket? You know where guys are going before recruiting starts? lofl...really?....really impossible. You yourself already admitted that recruiting is incredibly vague.