Savage Draft Commentary thread Topic

Lebron is pretty much the best sim player no matter the format. Both Steph & Wilt have weaknesses in this format. I agree wholeheartedly with Ben on this issue (how many times have you heard THAT on this site?). He’s completely correct in that having those three actually helps the owners at the end of the draft more than it hurts them. Open it up & let chaos reign.

No matter how this plays out, I want those three unbanned.

It’s also definitely more SAVAGE to let someone have Bron.
6/13/2020 10:18 PM
Just a suggestion: unban those three and flip one more round to B?
6/13/2020 10:52 PM
ill have a separate vote for all three before we start next season

honestly i thought it was perfect at abbaba
6/13/2020 11:06 PM
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/13/2020 10:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 6:08:00 PM (view original):
copernicus...one of the episodes would need to feature the nash/allen/peja/rodman/moses era...maybe get an interview with sly about his unoriginal bastards team
And before that, before the advanced stats hit the scene, there was a long stretch where open league regulars included legends like Gerald Govan, Julius Keye, and Ron Boone. (And everybody used Bill Russell all the time.) And a shorter chapter when Karl Malone and Troy Murphy were 100% effective at SF, and Swen Nater was a mediocre defender.

Somewhere in between those phases, an owner whose name I can't remember seemed to hack the code and put together a starting lineup that couldn't lose. I think he named his teams the Five Horsemen or something like that. Any other long-timers, feel free to correct me but his starters went something like Russell-Thurmond-Pippen-Moncrief-Kidd. He proclaimed that he would keep fielding the same lineup until he lost. After his sixth open league title in a row, I beat him in the finals. Never saw him again after that.
i remember troy murphy and his 96 d at sf...but karl malone at sf? thats crazy...was he dominating?
6/13/2020 11:09 PM
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 11:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/13/2020 10:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 6:08:00 PM (view original):
copernicus...one of the episodes would need to feature the nash/allen/peja/rodman/moses era...maybe get an interview with sly about his unoriginal bastards team
And before that, before the advanced stats hit the scene, there was a long stretch where open league regulars included legends like Gerald Govan, Julius Keye, and Ron Boone. (And everybody used Bill Russell all the time.) And a shorter chapter when Karl Malone and Troy Murphy were 100% effective at SF, and Swen Nater was a mediocre defender.

Somewhere in between those phases, an owner whose name I can't remember seemed to hack the code and put together a starting lineup that couldn't lose. I think he named his teams the Five Horsemen or something like that. Any other long-timers, feel free to correct me but his starters went something like Russell-Thurmond-Pippen-Moncrief-Kidd. He proclaimed that he would keep fielding the same lineup until he lost. After his sixth open league title in a row, I beat him in the finals. Never saw him again after that.
i remember troy murphy and his 96 d at sf...but karl malone at sf? thats crazy...was he dominating?
~2007 when blk% was op and every open league team had multiple Manute Bol’s was when I played a single open league season and then didn’t play SimLeague basketball again for a few years until I discovered progs. It kind of soured me on OL to this day. That was a wild era of the sim.
6/13/2020 11:30 PM
Rank___ Owner__________ League 1___ League 2___ League 3___ League 4__ League 5__
1 (12) benhoidal 3 1 4 2 2
1 mptrey 3 2 1 4 2
1 kinoa1 2 3 2 3 2
1 ashamael 3 2 3 1 3
1 pexetera 3 4 3 0 2
1 copernicus 3 1 3 2 3
1 jcred5 1 3 2 3 3
8 (11) amerk1180 2 1 2 4 2
8 dh555 2 3 2 3 1
8 pharrop 2 3 3 1 2
11 (10) tarheel1991 3 3 1 0 3
11 dBKC 2 1 3 2 2
11 robusk 2 0 1 3 4
11 20ks 2 2 1 3 2
11 jpevans31 2 3 2 2 1
11 24kpyrite 0 3 3 2 2
17 (9) gerryred 1 1 3 1 3
17 jhsukow 2 3 2 2 0
19 (8) bds9992 2 1 1 2 2
19 dskantor 3 1 1 2 1
19 goetz93 1 4 1 1 1
22 (7) longtallbrad 1 1 0 2 3
22 samuelyork93 1 1 2 2 1
22 ysw128 2 1 2 1 1
6/14/2020 12:19 AM (edited)
Don't mind me, this is just an easier format for me to make updates to.
6/13/2020 11:48 PM
thats awesome 20ks...it looks great
6/13/2020 11:57 PM
Posted by 20ks on 6/13/2020 11:48:00 PM (view original):
Don't mind me, this is just an easier format for me to make updates to.
If you change the font color of the underscores to white, it will look cleaner.

You have no idea how much time I've spent cleaning up spreadsheets that don't copy well to WIS formatting, only for them to change their formatting every few months to something worse.
6/13/2020 11:59 PM
Some of my teams aren't performing well, but with the exception of one build that is an outlier, there is very little difference structurally between any team. So I am not any more excited for the 4-0 team than I am worried for the 0-4 team. If we hit the 20 game mark and I am still middle of the pack, then I might start to stress a little.
6/14/2020 12:19 AM
Posted by robusk on 6/13/2020 11:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 11:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/13/2020 10:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 6:08:00 PM (view original):
copernicus...one of the episodes would need to feature the nash/allen/peja/rodman/moses era...maybe get an interview with sly about his unoriginal bastards team
And before that, before the advanced stats hit the scene, there was a long stretch where open league regulars included legends like Gerald Govan, Julius Keye, and Ron Boone. (And everybody used Bill Russell all the time.) And a shorter chapter when Karl Malone and Troy Murphy were 100% effective at SF, and Swen Nater was a mediocre defender.

Somewhere in between those phases, an owner whose name I can't remember seemed to hack the code and put together a starting lineup that couldn't lose. I think he named his teams the Five Horsemen or something like that. Any other long-timers, feel free to correct me but his starters went something like Russell-Thurmond-Pippen-Moncrief-Kidd. He proclaimed that he would keep fielding the same lineup until he lost. After his sixth open league title in a row, I beat him in the finals. Never saw him again after that.
i remember troy murphy and his 96 d at sf...but karl malone at sf? thats crazy...was he dominating?
~2007 when blk% was op and every open league team had multiple Manute Bol’s was when I played a single open league season and then didn’t play SimLeague basketball again for a few years until I discovered progs. It kind of soured me on OL to this day. That was a wild era of the sim.
Wow, I had clean forgotten about the Bol craze. I haven't played in an open league for about a decade...since whenever they changed "rookies" from being useless, fictional chumps you didn't actually want to have on the floor to being modeled after actual player seasons. This led to all kinds of calculated monkeying with minutes drafted and I lost interest.

And yes, the Mailman at SF was a weird wrinkle which led to a lot of overuse since it provided a rebounding edge.

Thinking again back to the pre-advanced stats days, defense was more important than efficiency, which is why Thurmond was a popular choice in open leagues. And a rebound was a rebound, so obscure schmoes like Govan and Keye were bewilderingly everywhere. There was also a fad of using a tandem of Glen Rice and Purvis Short at the wings, since they were cheap offense and the sim didn't seem to value assists as heavily as it does now.
6/14/2020 12:49 AM
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/14/2020 12:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 6/13/2020 11:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 11:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by longtallbrad on 6/13/2020 10:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dh555 on 6/13/2020 6:08:00 PM (view original):
copernicus...one of the episodes would need to feature the nash/allen/peja/rodman/moses era...maybe get an interview with sly about his unoriginal bastards team
And before that, before the advanced stats hit the scene, there was a long stretch where open league regulars included legends like Gerald Govan, Julius Keye, and Ron Boone. (And everybody used Bill Russell all the time.) And a shorter chapter when Karl Malone and Troy Murphy were 100% effective at SF, and Swen Nater was a mediocre defender.

Somewhere in between those phases, an owner whose name I can't remember seemed to hack the code and put together a starting lineup that couldn't lose. I think he named his teams the Five Horsemen or something like that. Any other long-timers, feel free to correct me but his starters went something like Russell-Thurmond-Pippen-Moncrief-Kidd. He proclaimed that he would keep fielding the same lineup until he lost. After his sixth open league title in a row, I beat him in the finals. Never saw him again after that.
i remember troy murphy and his 96 d at sf...but karl malone at sf? thats crazy...was he dominating?
~2007 when blk% was op and every open league team had multiple Manute Bol’s was when I played a single open league season and then didn’t play SimLeague basketball again for a few years until I discovered progs. It kind of soured me on OL to this day. That was a wild era of the sim.
Wow, I had clean forgotten about the Bol craze. I haven't played in an open league for about a decade...since whenever they changed "rookies" from being useless, fictional chumps you didn't actually want to have on the floor to being modeled after actual player seasons. This led to all kinds of calculated monkeying with minutes drafted and I lost interest.

And yes, the Mailman at SF was a weird wrinkle which led to a lot of overuse since it provided a rebounding edge.

Thinking again back to the pre-advanced stats days, defense was more important than efficiency, which is why Thurmond was a popular choice in open leagues. And a rebound was a rebound, so obscure schmoes like Govan and Keye were bewilderingly everywhere. There was also a fad of using a tandem of Glen Rice and Purvis Short at the wings, since they were cheap offense and the sim didn't seem to value assists as heavily as it does now.
I think during the Bol craze, Dale Ellis was everywhere as well.
6/14/2020 12:51 AM
another 3-2 night. Another Oscar foul out. I don't mind 3-2 but I really mind 30+ fouls at home from a super clean fouling team.
6/14/2020 2:50 AM
Owner Pts
benhoidal 17
pexetera 16
kinoa1 16
mptrey 15
jcred5 15
ashamael 15
tarheel1991 14
dh555 14
copernicus 14
gerryred 13
24kpyrite 13
20ks 13
pharrop 12
jpevans31 12
jhsukow 12
dBKC 12
amerk1180 12
robusk 11
dskantor 11
goetz93 10
samuelyork93 9
ysw128 8
longtallbrad 8
bds9992 8
6/14/2020 4:58 AM
ben with the clean sweep last night!
6/14/2020 4:59 AM
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