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A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

The wall works great in Israel.

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US kills 150 ISIS fighters in Syria airstrike during government shutdown, Pentagon says

Hmm. What happened to the poor, poor military?

Many died? More disabled?

How many years did you put in?

Looks pretty effective to me. They killed people during the shutdown!

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Posted by DougOut on 1/23/2018 9:35:00 PM (view original):
The wall works great in Israel.

How long is Israel's border? How many illegals are trying to come into Israel?

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

So 40 billion dollars for a 1% increase is OK?

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

So 40 billion dollars for a 1% increase is OK?

Yep. If it saves one Kate Steinle, it's worth it.

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

So 40 billion dollars for a 1% increase is OK?

Yep. If it saves one Kate Steinle, it's worth it.

Well, to be respectful, you are an idiot.

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

So 40 billion dollars for a 1% increase is OK?

Yep. If it saves one Kate Steinle, it's worth it.

Well, to be respectful, you are an idiot.

The good news is.... a wall will be built. Libs will go ape **** too. That'll be worth $40 billion (you're Uber inflated cost of building the wall).

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IMF: Trump tax cuts will boost global economy

how's the dollar doing?

???

bueller?

Travel to the U.S. has been on the decline ever since President Donald Trump took office, and new data shows the slump translates to a cost of $4.6 billion in lost spending and 40,000 jobs.

The latest data from the National Travel and Tourism Office shows a 3.3 percent drop in travel spending and a 4 percent decline in inbound travel.

the solar industry says trumps new tariff will cause 23,000 job losses in the US solar industry.

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

When will you start thinking about how little it will take in the very near future for an illegal alien to fly over the wall by drone?

More expensive, more risky, and less can come over at a time by drone. Besides let's not act like technology to detect drones crossing won't get better and less expensive over time.

the president is not now selling or talking up a air defense system

his idea in the noggin that holds his brain is a static, height limited, gravity bound, merican built, physical structure

taller by far than it is by width breadth or depth

its why he calls it a wall

this don't seem stupid to you

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

Drugs fly over the border through drones.

Illegal immigrants don't.

Isn't the point to stop drugs?

I love how libs think a wall can only do one thing and it must do it 100% effective otherwise its a failure. Sad! What's a failure is a 50 year war on drugs and illegal immigration and nothing has changed, other than both have gotten worse after trillions of tax dollars have been spent.

The wall is intended to ebb the flow of drugs and immigrants from illegally entering the country and no one expects it to be 100% effective. The wall is only PART of the plan to reduce illegal drugs and illegal immigrants from entering the country. There's all kinds of other technologies that will also be used in conjunction with the wall and at airports and at shipping ports. There will also be deterrents like more border agents, more judges so there's no catch-and-release, e-verify, less visa applications issued, no lotteries from shithole countries, and no chain migration.

What percentage would be considered 'effective'?

Just has to be more effective than what we have today and it's a win.... And that's a low bar as the last 8-10 years have proven.

So 40 billion dollars for a 1% increase is OK?

Yep. If it saves one Kate Steinle, it's worth it.

When asked about how many lives could be saved with a 40 billion dollars influx of healthcare spending, moy's compassionate calculus bolted like Rep Mo Brooks running from questions about Roy Moore.

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Posted by laramiebob on 1/23/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):
A 2nd century wall in the middle of the southwestern desert in the age of cheap easy to fly drones??? Anyone wanting to spend my TAXPAYER dollars on such a concept is a YUGE idiot!! They have also never been to the desert along the border anywhere (nearly) west of Nogales. Or most places east of Nogales for a good long stretch (100's of miles). That idea (a wall stopping anything in that unpopulated terrain) is completely useless. A waste of taxpayer dollars. How can so-called Conservatives be so stupid with MY tax dollars??

When was the last time an illegal alien flew over the wall by drone?

When will you start thinking about how little it will take in the very near future for an illegal alien to fly over the wall by drone?

More expensive, more risky, and less can come over at a time by drone. Besides let's not act like technology to detect drones crossing won't get better and less expensive over time.

the president is not now selling or talking up a air defense system

his idea in the noggin that holds his brain is a static, height limited, gravity bound, merican built, physical structure

taller by far than it is by width breadth or depth

its why he calls it a wall

this don't seem stupid to you

He just requested $36 billion in funding... $18 billion for the wall, and $18 billion for all the 'other' stuff. Watch for actions, not words and liberal media headlines.