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I'm dissappointed...it looks like y'all didn't address the disparity in d rating between modern players and 50's/60's players. One of the nice changes has been the move towards making the 50's/60's player/seasons more useful by using more advanced stats such as adjusted fg%, reb %, usage rate, etc. However, the new D ratings exacerbate the advantage that modern players enjoy over the 50's/60's players.

I am looking forward to the new release. I think its another step in the right direction. I'd just like to see more diverse team rosters, and the more balanced the player/era's are, the more different player/seasons we will see used by owners.

Thanks!
8/27/2008 10:07 PM
Can someone tell me when this junk is going to be released? You mine as well empty out every open theme league out there.
8/27/2008 10:22 PM
I think I explained in another thread that part of the discrepancy is because of when the All Defense teams came about and then when "other votes" became available. I think you will find that 50s and 60s players are more affordable now.
8/27/2008 10:23 PM
Will there be any changes to the team possession or individual possession penalties?
8/27/2008 10:27 PM
There was a change to the team penalty not long ago, but nothing new with this release.
8/27/2008 10:28 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By seble on 8/27/2008There was a change to the team penalty not long ago, but nothing new with this release
In other words, to avoid the team penalty you will still need to have at least 10 "points" (based on the usage% of the players) on the court.
8/27/2008 10:35 PM
Damn maybe Seble is blocked from seeing my first post.


WHEN IS THIS GOING TO BE RELEASED?
8/27/2008 10:35 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By seble on 8/27/2008
Probably not until next week. I want to see how the effectiveness change thread shakes out and make sure salaries are ok. Friday might be doable, but putting out a major release on Friday is just asking for trouble on my end, so probably early next week.
8/27/2008 10:39 PM
Thank you sly. It must be in this thread somewhere, but I didn't feel like searching thru every crazy post. I'm sure it would have been easy for seble to copy and paste as well but I guess he just wanted to ignore it.
8/27/2008 10:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by 98average on 8/27/2008Thank you sly. It must be in this thread somewhere, but I didn't feel like searching thru every crazy post. I'm sure it would have been easy for seble to copy and paste as well but I guess he just wanted to ignore it.
It's actually in another thread that's named something quite similar to what you asked.

not to mention you posted one minute before seble so it's very possible that he still has not seen your post.

Jeez.
8/27/2008 10:44 PM
Just catching up on things. I must say, reading through this thread has been quite tense and strangely entertaining. I really feel for Seble and yet also can certainly appreciate some of the concerns expressed by the vets.

For my two cents, just to try to keep things positive, I will say that I've had a blast bordering on obsession with WhatIf hoops since discovering it maybe a year or two ago. Heck, I've even had the privilege of somehow beyond my wildest expectations of being bequeathed with the #1 owner rating for a stretch (I won't even ask how that's calculated, but I did try bragging to my wife about it and she just looked at me with pity).

Anyway, just as a comparison within WhatIf, I will say that I find hoops sooo much more compelling than the frustrating football interface (we WhatIf users are stat lovers, WhatIf should be our best source for stats/sorts/searches on the web, and it's just not so on the football branch ... but that's another thread I'm sure). In any event, I'm grateful that Seble and Robin (or whoever his partner is that makes up the "royal we" of the hoops branch, lol) are innovative and fairly responsive when it comes to keeping the Sim fresh.

I will note however in agreement with an earlier comment that I do think the Sim works best when it's based as much as possible on quantifiable stats as opposed to subjective assumptions, to the degree that it's possible. For instance, adding percentages to areas a shot takes place on the floor for a player seems pretty subjective given that we can't possibly have the shot chart data for players available for 90% of the NBA's history -- i.e. if Tony Parker played in the 70s, would we have any idea statistically that he got a higher percentage of his points in the paint than most big men do? Although defensive ratings, though subjective, are truly necessary to reflect the true value of the Rodmans and Wallaces of the world. There's no perfect fix, but I would encourage the Simsters to do their best to be able to tie back their variables as much as possible to known real-life statistics.

So in closing, I thank Seble for his efforts, and yet at the same time applaud the passionate veterans for their well-reasoned and oft valid points. I realize this might sound contradictory, kind of like reconciling divine predestination with individual free will, but yet both can be true at the same time.

Thus ends my manifesto.
8/27/2008 10:47 PM
Your boyfriend answered the question that was posted after mine ash.


Jeez.
8/27/2008 10:47 PM
Actually ash, go back and do a little looking. seble posted a response to nc's question, which was posted after 98's question.
8/27/2008 10:50 PM
wow, you're pretty uptight. Calm down. Jesus.

I guess you ain't read nothing if you're calling me a Seble-supporter rofl.

Here's an idea: read stuff b4 asking questions!

edit: didn't mean you, sly. you intercepted me. And I see that now.
8/27/2008 10:52 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By abrondon on 8/27/2008...(I won't even ask how that's calculated, but I did try bragging to my wife about it and she just looked at me with pity)....

Lol. Welcome to the club.
8/27/2008 10:53 PM
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