Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 11/18/2009one thing no one has really mentioned either is that Bigmen with PE will now probably become very valuable..... having bigmen who can play the Per will probably change the game and make matchups tuff.... they might have to add some kind of way for us to match players up instead of match positions up when playing m2

I have always felt that big men with Per were very valuable to my teams success. That said I do agree that they likely could become even more valuable.

Quote: Originally posted by arssanguinus on 11/17/2009I want to mention that, for the new SimEngine, Low Post will essentially mean "ability to score in the paint area". In the current SimEngine Low Post is pretty much insignificant for guards, but that will not be the case for the next release.

Just this part woudl have profound implications on the makeup of my current lineup. Would be very interesting.

Incidentally, wouldn't changes like this in some ways level the field for people who have a bunch of the 'old' seniors; For example, they would have a whole bunch of guards without low post ability, where the people with new recruits would take advantage to recruit new guards with a better low post rating - which could muddy the water somewhat as far as the inherent advantage for a few seasons.

Unavoidable problem any time they make changes to the engine. I certainly was fortunate when potential first rolled out in Knight World, I had 9 open scholarships the first 2 seasons, before they fixed the bug/mistake. I certainly used that to my advantage for the 3 seasons following that.

Just saying, allot said that the teams with many of the players under the old rules woudl have an advantage for several seasons. Not sure that is entirely true. Or at least there are factors pushing the other way.

Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 11/18/2009one thing no one has really mentioned either is that Bigmen with PE will now probably become very valuable..... having bigmen who can play the Per will probably change the game and make matchups tuff.... they might have to add some kind of way for us to match players up instead of match positions up when playing m2m

I'm not really sure I see the connection. If defense was split into per and lp def ability, then sure. But since it's not ... I dunno, maybe I'm missing something?

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Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 11/19/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 11/18/2009
one thing no one has really mentioned either is that Bigmen with PE will now probably become very valuable..... having bigmen who can play the Per will probably change the game and make matchups tuff.... they might have to add some kind of way for us to match players up instead of match positions up when playing m2m

I'm not really sure I see the connection. If defense was split into per and lp def ability, then sure. But since it's not ... I dunno, maybe I'm missing something

C has 95 LP and 50 PE and PF has 95 LP and 5 PE



I want my quicker more ath bigman on the C

Quote: Originally posted by jskenner on 11/18/2009aporter, I've never been a big reader of PBP details.  Do you know if the current engine includes guards taking it to the basket and/or shooting pullups in the lane?  I always assumed so, and that this was more-or-less governed by ATH, SPD, BH and IQ.

i thought i was going to find a bunch of examples for you, JS, but im kinda surprised to see that i cant really find any mention of gaurds slashing through for layups or pullup jumpers in the lane, although "outside the lane" does seem to indicate they are very close to the lane.

Lozowski splits the trap, but misses off the glass <----( this does seem to be in the lane, my guess)
Lozowski pulls up just outside of the lane and banks it in
Lozowski hit a jumper from the foul line

also, no back door cuts resulting in layups (that i could find)
obviously there were layups and dunks off fastbreaks and that is in the paint, but different.

Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 11/19/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By girt25 on 11/19/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By Fregoe on 11/18/2009
one thing no one has really mentioned either is that Bigmen with PE will now probably become very valuable..... having bigmen who can play the Per will probably change the game and make matchups tuff.... they might have to add some kind of way for us to match players up instead of match positions up when playing m2m

I'm not really sure I see the connection. If defense was split into per and lp def ability, then sure. But since it's not ... I dunno, maybe I'm missing something?

C has 95 LP and 50 PE and PF has 95 LP and 5 PE



I want my quicker more ath bigman on the C

I see what you're saying there. I would still want my quicker, more athletic big guarding their quicker, more ath big rather than one who can shoot from farther away, but I appreciate the point. Individual def matchups would be great.

you guys are still trying to figure this all out?

Quote: Originally Posted By blaank182 on 11/20/2009you guys are still trying to figure this all out

I don't know that we are still trying to figure anything out, were just discussing the dev blog in this thread every time he updates it.

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Great to see seble, thanks for the update. When will we know who is selected for beta testing?

Some very obvious concerns about the piece with the top 25 ranking.

-WIS's Top 25 is very, very flawed, and has remained so despite many attempts to fix it. So using it is a tool for NT selection seeding is downright scary.

-The selection committee does not use the Top 25 as one of their metrics. We are family friends with a former member (maybe have been chair one year). I have had this confirmed to be beyond a shadow of a doubt. There may be other metrics that approximate what Top 25 does that come into play, but they absolutely do not use top 25.

We're not trying to replicate the inputs that the selection committee uses, but to replicate the output of that committee. Based on our analysis, no matter what they claim to look at, those three things pretty closely determine seeding.

Just out of curiosity, what DOES go into the WIS top 25 rating formula thingy?