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Towel is in hand. Towel is thrown. See y'all next season
6/27/2020 8:52 PM
Owner Pts Last
pexetera 106 4
dBKC 104 3
benhoidal 104 2
mptrey 101 3
kinoa1 101 3
dh555 97 3
copernicus 96 4
jcred5 89 2
tarheel1991 88 4
20ks 84 3
ysw128 83 2
robusk 82 3
ashamael 82 2
jpevans31 80 2
24kpyrite 79 2
goetz93 78 4
gerryred 77 4
jhsukow 76 3
dskantor 74 0
samuelyork93 70 2
pharrop 67 2
bds9992 60 1
longtallbrad 53 2
amerk1180 49 0
6/28/2020 2:28 AM
I have been trying to look at each game and play the matchups for each team, spending an hour a day at least doing so.....and my teams keep on losing. So I have gotten to the point where I will just set what I think is the :BEST" lineup for each team and pretty much just leaving it. Whenever I do this and stop paying attention to the leagues is when I seem to win more games. So we will see if that helps. NOTHING else is working, so apathy might be my best chance lol.
6/28/2020 7:01 AM
bds and Amerk, I hope to see you guys back next season though. With a new draft comes hope.

Pex thanks for always keeping us updated with standings
6/28/2020 8:28 AM
Ooof. Another 0-5 day. Hard to maintain interest when you're below .500 overall.
6/28/2020 2:04 PM
Owner Pts Last
pexetera 111 5
benhoidal 109 5
dBKC 106 2
kinoa1 104 3
mptrey 103 2
copernicus 100 4
dh555 99 2
jcred5 93 4
tarheel1991 90 2
ysw128 86 3
20ks 86 2
robusk 84 2
jpevans31 83 3
ashamael 82 0
24kpyrite 81 2
goetz93 80 2
gerryred 79 2
jhsukow 78 2
dskantor 77 3
samuelyork93 72 2
pharrop 69 2
bds9992 63 3
longtallbrad 55 2
amerk1180 50 1
6/28/2020 3:17 PM
Oh yeah I'll be back! Gotta do better than THIS!
6/28/2020 8:48 PM
Posted by dBKC on 6/28/2020 8:28:00 AM (view original):
bds and Amerk, I hope to see you guys back next season though. With a new draft comes hope.

Pex thanks for always keeping us updated with standings
Absolutely. I have new thoughts on this format and I'm excited. Onward and upward
6/28/2020 8:52 PM
Posted by ashamael on 6/28/2020 2:04:00 PM (view original):
Ooof. Another 0-5 day. Hard to maintain interest when you're below .500 overall.
Even HARDER to maintain interest when you have TWO teams under .300 and NOT ONE even SNIFFING the .500 mark LMAO

Gosh, what happy memories when all five of my teams were 1-1 and I remember posting about "definition of mediocrity...but at least I don't think any of my teams will be 33 games back at the end". Oh, the good times! LOL
6/28/2020 11:37 PM
What is the timetable for this Savage draft? Will it be a once a year thing about the same time of year, or are we gonna jump right into another one? It could get costly but I'm still in.

My problem with this site, ESPECIALLY basketball, is valuations of players. Like for example, Bo Outlaw being much more valuable in the WIS computer model than George Gervin. Someone like Andrew Bogut being more valuable than someone like Dikembe Mutombo or Brad Daugherty. Manu Ginobili being more valuable than Jerry West. Elgin Baylor was the Michael Jordan of his era, but is a TOTAL liability in WIS. Hell, Muggsy Bogues is wayyy more valuable than Bob Cousy! I just HATE that about this sim, but hell, when in Rome...I gotta learn how to do what the damn Romans do, and I will be MUCH better in another shot at this!
6/28/2020 11:52 PM
you should maybe spend some time reading the other threads in these forums if you have a chance...
6/28/2020 11:55 PM
Posted by amerk1180 on 6/28/2020 11:52:00 PM (view original):
What is the timetable for this Savage draft? Will it be a once a year thing about the same time of year, or are we gonna jump right into another one? It could get costly but I'm still in.

My problem with this site, ESPECIALLY basketball, is valuations of players. Like for example, Bo Outlaw being much more valuable in the WIS computer model than George Gervin. Someone like Andrew Bogut being more valuable than someone like Dikembe Mutombo or Brad Daugherty. Manu Ginobili being more valuable than Jerry West. Elgin Baylor was the Michael Jordan of his era, but is a TOTAL liability in WIS. Hell, Muggsy Bogues is wayyy more valuable than Bob Cousy! I just HATE that about this sim, but hell, when in Rome...I gotta learn how to do what the damn Romans do, and I will be MUCH better in another shot at this!
I feel you but I also feel like the Savage format negates some of this. Jerry West is a huge part of my 3rd ranked team.
6/29/2020 12:02 AM
I know what you are saying dBKC, but I guess some of these guys are dependent on who you draft around them. For example, I don't think there is a HUGE difference between Jerry West and George Gervin. Both are scorers. Gervin has a higher eFG and West gives you more assts, D and maybe even rebounds. But Gervin is absolutely USELESS to me on s crappy team. I honestly would be MUCH better off with Ginobili, Michael Redd, Buddy Hield, or heck, even someone like Rashard Lewis than Gervin. And I was alive when Gervin played and can attest that he was one of the top three best offensive players in the league from 1977-1981.

You get my point? Elgin Baylor played FOUR positions at a 99% in WIS ratings with a 70+ defense and a 10/20+ Oreb/Dreb%, but in the WIS sim, someone like Montrezl Harrell or Andrei Kirilenko puts ol' Elgin to shame! Bob Pettit was THE Karl Malone of his era but no one will TOUCH him with a ten foot pole in any of our draft leagues. Andrew Bogut, Kris Humphries, Emeka Okefor and ****, even Anderson Varejao is more valuable than Pettit. See what I mean? See how ridiculous that sounds? These guys are HALL OF FAMERS, and were the Jordan's, Kibe's, Malone's, Barkley's & CP3's of their era's! In a league like this Savage league, players like that SHOULD BE much more valuable than they are! The fact that they are NOT, handicaps someone like me, who remembers their greatness and long careers.

It just makes me cringe thinking that I shoulda drafted someone like Bo Outlaw or Montrezl Harrell over George f'in Gervin!

OK, lemme put it another way....in WIS baseball, Ty Cobb or George Sisler are every bit as good and contributory as Mike Trout or Albert Pujols. In WIS football, a RB like Jim Taylor or Skeets Quinlan can put up better numbers than Barry Sanders, Arien Foster or LeSean McCoy. In WIS hockey, Frank Nighbor or Joe Malone or Babe Dye can have as good a season as Wayne Gretzky, Steven Stamkos or Alexei Ovechkin. WHY CAN'T WIS BASKETBALL DO THE SAME THING???? There is a TOTAL generational bias and it favors the current NBA game with the 3 pt line WAY more than it should!

First of all, EVERY Bill Russell season should have a D of 90 or more. There should be a better adjustment to eFG of earlier players. Cliff Hagen should have an eFG of closer to 55% than his 50% or so he has now. Pete Maravich or Donnie Freeman or Gail Goodrich or other three point bombers before the 3 pt line should have much higher 3 pt percantages than they currently do. There needs to be some more variable factors to input into the sim to increase the value of these earlier players in my opinion. But obviously no one is listening, so I just need to stop griping and do as the Romans do.
6/29/2020 1:28 AM
Drafting Montrezl Harrell over Elgin Baylor or Bob Pettit would be like drafting Jay Bruce over Jimmie Foxx. Or like drafting 2018's Billy Hamilton over 1890's Billy Hamilton. Or like drafting Josh Allen over Johnny Unitas or Otto Graham. Am I starting to make sense or just drunken rambling lol?
6/29/2020 1:36 AM
I can't respond to all of that so I will just say: **** Ty Cobb with the power of a thousand steel poles.
6/29/2020 2:05 AM
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