In your next response back to them, quote the developer chat from 7/10/08.

blazor - I have actually seen something similiar happen with human coach battles, in a battle, I have gone ahead without spending any money overnight, and eventually lost, so it is not like the coach took the scholy away or anything (I am tlaking a 40-50k battle with 2 A prestige schools). My guess has been when it is close, some change was made for 'soft' flip flopping in the answers, where the FSS might say player A is struggling. Just a guess, but I think it might explain your situation, not saying my comment is accurate or even if accurate, that you don't have a beef, just thought your comment explained some of what I had seen.

At what point did you catch up with the SIM in recruiting?

If it was not by the end of Day 1 then the SIM has the "intrerest" accumulating from their initial recruitiung efforts. This "interest" gains momentum each day and can actually allow the SIM to overtake you after signings.

If you went after the recruit on day 1 and were leading or even by the end of the day (24 hiurs) then I have no explanation. If you didnt catch up until day 2 or day 3 then you cannot stop spending after taking a small lead beacuse this rolling interest will push the SIM back ahead of you if you are very close.

I thought it had someting to do with the amount of time a recruit has been considering a school and that recuiting credit that was placed to prevent poaching.

For instance -

in cycle 1 simai throws down 15,000 on the recruit and you throw down 5,000. the recruit considers both teams at this point. then in cycle two you throw down another 5,000, cycle 3 another 5,000 or so.... and finally you are in the lead.

Simmy's 15,000 has been compounding slightly faster than your 15,000 since they have had it all on that recruit longer.

I don't like it but I think this is the case.

nah nah nah nah nah I beat you to it moy!!!!!!!

:)

Quote: Originally Posted By mullycj on 10/18/2009
nah nah nah nah nah I beat you to it moy!!!!!!!

:)

get out of my mind!!!!!!!

Quote: Originally Posted By mullycj on 10/18/2009
At what point did you catch up with the SIM in recruiting?

If it was not by the end of Day 1 then the SIM has the "intrerest" accumulating from their initial recruitiung efforts. This "interest" gains momentum each day and can actually allow the SIM to overtake you after signings.

If you went after the recruit on day 1 and were leading or even by the end of the day (24 hiurs) then I have no explanation. If you didnt catch up until day 2 or day 3 then you cannot stop spending after taking a small lead beacuse this rolling interest will push the SIM back ahead of you if you are very close.

Recruiting started on the 14th. I received my message on the 15th at 11:00 PM. Then nothing happened for 2 1/2 days till this morning when I got the "Too late message". Also though I understand what you guys are saying about early effort gaining strength over time, if that was the case then I should have gotten some kind of waring. You know, like the ole "I just can't give you a yes or no right now" message or SOMETHING. It should not be able to go right from "I hope nothing changes between now and the signing period" to "Sorry, thought you would have heard by now."

I can see that against a human coach who may have just spent a boat load of cash. But not against a SIM who is supposed to only be able to make intial recruiting effort.

Oh and did I mention that I spent almost 2 full scholarships on the guy, was only 130 miles away and the SIM school's effort was from 780 miles away? That's another thing that is absolutely ridiculous. Distance is an obvious factor when dealing with another human coach. But according to WIS, it is not a factor for SIM coached teams. That makes no sense whatsoever!

And why in the world is oldresorter's post being reviewed? There was nothing inappropriate in it whatsoever! All he did was confirm there was a similar problem to this before.

Ironically, I believe he was referring to the last recruiting session in Crum. Where just like him I had those players suddenly consider me one cycle (with no additional recruiting effort) and then not be considering me at all the very next cycle.

He confirms that fact and suddenly his post is "being reviewed"?!? Something is starting to smell rotten in Denmark to be sure!

Quote: Originally posted by blazor on 10/18/2009And why in the world is oldresorter's post being reviewed?  There was nothing inappropriate in it whatsoever!  All he did was confirm there was a similar problem to this before.Ironically, I believe he was referring to the last recruiting session in Crum.  Where just like him I had those players suddenly consider me one cycle (with no additional recruiting effort) and then not be considering me at all the very next cycle.He confirms that fact and suddenly his post is "being reviewed"?!?  Something is starting to smell rotten in Denmark to be sure!

Because you redlined him.

blazor, that is a first for me, but I do think somehow or other you redlined it, not admin, as far as sim distance, I am almost sure they recruit as if they are 220 miles away, regardless of how far away they are real life, 20 miles or 2000 miles, another example of selective use of that good old 'real life' card by CS.

by the way, if sims did have to follow the distance rules, and with a slight programming change to recruiting, sims would have to recruit local like everyone else, which would keep human empty regions from having unfair advantages over the rest of us. This was part of rail's problem with recruiting in this game, somewhat a crusade, until he said the heck with things and packed it in

Quote: Originally Posted By blazor on 10/18/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By mullycj on 10/18/2009

At what point did you catch up with the SIM in recruiting?

If it was not by the end of Day 1 then the SIM has the "intrerest" accumulating from their initial recruitiung efforts. This "interest" gains momentum each day and can actually allow the SIM to overtake you after signings.

If you went after the recruit on day 1 and were leading or even by the end of the day (24 hiurs) then I have no explanation. If you didnt catch up until day 2 or day 3 then you cannot stop spending after taking a small lead beacuse this rolling interest will push the SIM back ahead of you if you are very close.

Recruiting started on the 14th. I received my message on the 15th at 11:00 PM. Then nothing happened for 2 1/2 days till this morning when I got the "Too late message". Also though I understand what you guys are saying about early effort gaining strength over time, if that was the case then I should have gotten some kind of waring. You know, like the ole "I just can't give you a yes or no right now" message or SOMETHING. It should not be able to go right from "I hope nothing changes between now and the signing period" to "Sorry, thought you would have heard by now."

I can see that against a human coach who may have just spent a boat load of cash. But not against a SIM who is supposed to only be able to make intial recruiting effort.

Oh and did I mention that I spent almost 2 full scholarships on the guy, was only 130 miles away and the SIM school's effort was from 780 miles away? That's another thing that is absolutely ridiculous. Distance is an obvious factor when dealing with another human coach. But according to WIS, it is not a factor for SIM coached teams. That makes no sense whatsoever!

Yes I agree. You should have gotten one of those tweener messages.

blazor what was your prestige, what was the sims. also how many open scholies did the sim have? both those items contribute to the formula of figuring out if you should have won the battle or not. a 3rd factor is if the sim's conference had post season money

in other words, sometimes 2 scholies worth of local money would not win or come close - sometimes it would be way too much, depending on the sim's presitge and money available.

I wonder if there is a bug in programming where a warning message does not get sent out of the coach over takes another without spending any money in that period.

I have a question. What the heck do you guys mean when you say I "redlined" oldresorter?