1941 WESPL Draft Topic

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This is progressive league playing dual eras. Each season we play 2 years, but we keep those years completely separate by league (except for interleague play). We play each era simultaneously, one in the NL and one in the PL. In effect we are playing two progressive leagues, separated by league boundary. the reason we are playing 2 at once, rather than each individually is, of course, that there are not enough 1923 or 1946 players to fill 24 teams, but there are enough to fill 12 teams.

·each owner can take up to 2 teams- one starting in 1923 in the NL and one starting in 1946 in the PL. (if you only want one team, that is fine...someone else will then just take only one in the opposite league)

·we will have separate snake-style initial drafts for each league

o1923 teams will be able to draft any player (and only any player) who had a 1923 WIS season. 1946 teams will be able to draft any player (and only any player) who had a 1946 WIS season.

owe will draft stadiums (from our era) in the initial drafts

odraft order for the initial drafts will be determined randomly

odrafted players will be owned until they are cut, are traded, or retire

ostadiums will be owned for the life of the league, unless you appeal for a stadium change.

·each team may carry over as many players as it likes to the following season (standard progressive- For instance, the team who had 1923 babe ruth in 1923, would have 1924 babe ruth in 1924. )

okeeper lists will be due by the 135 game mark. Late keeper lists will have all possible keepers counted against their DPR (see below), and if not submitted by the start of the draft- all possible keepers retained.

oplayers who miss a WIS season in mid-career can be retained on the DL until their career resumes. for instance, if you draft P y O'doul in 1923, you can retain him until he comes back as an outfielder. (you have to keep him on your active roster any year he has a WIS season)

·after each season we will have separate non-snake rookie/free agent drafts to fill out rosters in each league/year. a drafted player will be owned by its drafting team until that player is traded, is cut, or retires.

orookie/free agent draft order: factors involved will be SalaryYr1 (previous year): punished. salaryYr2 (upcoming year, of team's keepers): punished at lesser rate. Wins previous year (after 135gms): rewarded at lesser rate. here is the formula:

Total salaryYr1 at Game 81 (Millionsx2) + salaryYr2 from posted keepers by Game 135 (MillionsX1) - Wins at Game 140/2= DPS (draft power score)

the lowest possible salary that can be entered into the formula will be 55m. for instance, if your salary from year 1 (or yr 2) was 39m, 55m would be used in the formula. (there is no advantage to holding a firesale to get below 55m in salary)

Lowest DPS drafts first, highest last

trading draft picks for players or other picks is allowed.

·at no point in any season will a team from one league/year be able to have a player from another year. for instance, a 1923 team will have all 1923 players. there will be no inter-year trading between 1923 and 1946 teams. (trading between teams of the same year will, of course, be legal and encouraged).

·Team names will begin with the current year, followed by the city of your stadium, followed by a nickname of your choice (can be the real name, or a name of your choice.) for instance, if you drafted wrigley field in the 1946 draft, your team name could be: '46 Chicago Cubs, or '46 Chicago River Rats etc. it could not be don's dingers, or tallahassee tigers etc.

·AAA will be set to below-average, so as to provide fatigue relief, but at replacement-player level ability (similar to real life minor leagues).

·The NLCS will be considered the WS of the 23 era, and PLCS will be considered the WS of the 46 era. The LCS winners will be proclaimed "champions" of their respective eras, and the world series will be a time-travel exhibition match for WIS rewards, personal stats, and bragging rights.

·collusion will be illegal -(note- this section was written for owners who own teams in both leagues. so far, I -jwilli- am the only one) for instance, dumping 1923 players to another 1923 team in exchange for recieving the opposite in return with your 1946 team will be absolutely illegal and punishable by draft pick loss or expulsion at commissioner discretion. also, throwing games, between 2 teams of your own (there will only be 2 per year), or between your team and another's team, for any reason, will also be illegal and punishable by the same measures.

·Live play will be legal, although there will never be any sort of requirement to play live. completely up to the owner. SLLive will be allowed for the current series.

·No DH

urband; malinowt; jwilli7122; Dufferman; abriggster; fire13; billingsby; contrarian23; BullMoose; Jtpsops; etapar; gonoles777
11/6/2009 7:56 AM
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Draft rules



Once you have posted your pick, please sitemail the next 2 owners



If the owner immediately before you has posted his or her pick, you may post your pick – otherwise, you must wait until the beginning of your scheduled draft slot to post your pick



To minimize extensive skipping, the draft for the following day will not start until the posted time for that day's first pick - this will provide owners with skipped picks time to make a pick before the next day's picks are made

If all owners have picked (no skips), the the draft order for the following day may proceed

Posted picks are official once another owner has posted his or her pick.

To avoid selecting a player already selected, please check the available players list and the most recent posted draft picks before posting your pick

The use of proxies is encouraged if you think you may not be around to post your pick
11/6/2009 7:57 AM
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1941WESPL Draft Order

Using the DPS rules: Total salaryYr1 at Game 140 (Millionsx2) + salaryYr2 from posted keepers by Game 135 (MillionsX1) - Wins at Game 140/2= DPS (draft power score)

the lowest possible salary that can be entered into the formula will be 55m. for instance, if your salary from year 1 (or yr 2) was 39m, 55m would be used in the formula. (there is no advantage to holding a firesale to get below 55m in salary)

1Boston - Jtpsops179.80
2St. Louis - abriggster183.20
3Bronx - malinowt187.00
4NY Yankees - gonoles189.20
5Wash Senators - fire13201.60
6Pittsburgh - contrarian23203.90
7Manhatten - jwilli205.80
8Philadelphia - urband210.00
9Chicago - Dufferman214.60
10Cincinnati - billingsby220.30
11Detroit - etapar239.60
12Cleveland - BullMoose248.70
11/6/2009 7:58 AM
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Round One - Monday - November 9
All Times ET
1. Boston (Jtpsops) Early Wynn (P)
2. St. Louis (abriggster) Phil Rizzuto (SS)
3. Bronx (malinowt) Tex Hughson (P)
4. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Howie Pollet (P)
5. Pittsburgh (contrarian23) Walker Cooper (C) trade with Wash
6. Pittsburgh (contrarian23) Ernie White (P) (LAST PICK)
7. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Elmer Valo (OF)
8. Philadelphia (urband) Jerry Priddy (2B)
9. Chicago (Dufferman) Bob Moncrief (P)
10. Cincinnati (billingsby) Danny Murtaugh (2B)
11. Detroit (etapar) Paul Erickson (P)
12. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Ace Adams (P) (trade with Cleveland)
Round Two - Tuesday - November 10
All Times ET
13. Boston (Jtpsops) Pete Suder (3B)
14. St. Louis (abriggster) Johnny Rucker (OF)
15. Bronx (malinowt) Pat Mullin (OF)
16. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Tom Ferrick (P)
17. Washington (fire13) Clyde McCullough (C)
18. Washington (fire13) Norm Branch (P) (trade with Pittsburgh)
19. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Phil Marchildon (P)
20. Philadelphia (urband) Dutch Dietz (P)
21. Chicago (Dufferman) Jimmy Wasdell (OF) (LAST PICK)
22. Cincinnati (billingsby) Johnny Gorsica (P) (LAST PICK)
23. Detroit (etapar) Vern Kennedy (P)
24. St. Louis (abriggster) Soup Campbell (OF) (trade with Cleveland)
Round Three - Wednesday - November 11
All Times ET
25. Boston (Jtpsops) Creepy Crespi (2B)
26. St. Louis (abriggster) Lum Harris (P)
27. Bronx (malinowt) Cookie Lavagetto (3B)
28. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Bob Kennedy (3B)
29. Washington (fire13) Estel Crabtree (OF)
30. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Tommy Hughes (P)
31. Philadelphia (urband) Bobby Sturgeon (SS)
32. Detroit (etapar) Frankie Pytlak (C)
33. Cleveland (BullMoose) Don Kolloway (2B)
Round Four - Thursday - November 12
All Times ET
34. Boston (Jtpsops) Al Evans (C)
35. St. Louis (abriggster) Joe Bowman (P) (LAST PICK)
36. Bronx (malinowt) Hank Edwards (OF)
37. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Heinie Mueller (2B)
38. Washington (fire13) Fred Caligiuri (P)
39. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Jack Hallett (P)
40. Philadelphia (urband) Larry Rosenthal (OF)
41. Detroit (etapar) Frenchy Bordagaray (OF)
42. Cleveland (BullMoose) Lou Stringer (2B)
Round Five - Friday - November 13
All Times ET
43. Boston (Jtpsops) Frank Croucher (SS) (LAST PICK)
44. Bronx (malinowt) Not Needed (LAST PICK)
45. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Skeeter Webb (2B)
46. Washington (fire13) Hillis Layne (3B)
47. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Rube Melton (P)
48. Philadelphia (urband) Steve Mesner (3B) (LAST PICK)
49. Detroit (etapar) Sam Nahom (P) (LAST PICK)
50. Cleveland (BullMoose) Dick Newsome (P)
Round Six - Saturday - November 14
All Times ET
52. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Bobby Mattick (SS)
53. Washington (fire13) Frankie Crosetti (SS)
54. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Junior Thompson (P)
55. Cleveland (BullMoose) Vallie Eaves (P)
Round Seven - Saturday - November 14
All Times ET
56. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Rusty Peters (SS)
57. Washington (fire13) Buddy Myer (2B)
57a. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Bud Stewart (OF)
58. Cleveland (BullMoose) Lloyd Waner (OF)
Round Eight - Saturday - November 14
All Times ET
59. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Bill Nagel (2B)
60. Washington (fire13) Ival Goodman (OF) (LAST PICK)
60a. Manhatten (jwilli7122) Hal Marnie (2B) (LAST PICK)
61. Cleveland (BullMoose) Coaker Triplett (OF) (LAST PICK)
Remaining Rounds - Saturday - November 14
All Times ET
62. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Eric McNair (3B)
63. NY Yankees (gonoles777) Maury Newlin (P)
11/6/2009 8:15 AM
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*** 1941 WESPL Draft Available Players - Already Selected in Bold ***

Catchers

Berres, Ray

Cooper, Walker

Desautels, Gene

Dickey, George

Evans, Al

Franks, Herman

George, Greek

Livingston, Mickey

Mancuso, Gus

McCullough, Clyde

Montgomery, Al

Pytlak, Frankie

Scheffing, Bob

Turner, Tom

West, Dick



First Base

Collins, Ripper

Gremp, Buddy

Hassett, Buddy

Sturm, Johnny



Second Base

Crespi, Creepy

Davis, Crash

Hale, Odell

Heffner, Don

Knickerbocker, Bill

Kolloway, Don

Marnie, Hal

Meyer, Dutch

Mueller, Heinie

Murtaugh, Danny

Myer, Buddy

Nagel, Bill

Priddy, Jerry

Roberge, Skippy

Stringer, Lou

Webb, Skeeter

Whitehead, Burgess



Third Base

Aleno, Chuck

Archie, George

Davis, John

Kennedy, Bob

Lavagetto, Cookie

Layne, Hillis

McNair, Eric

Mesner, Steve

Orengo, Joe

Sisti, Sibby

Suder, Pete



Shortstop

Anderson, Alf

Brancato, Al

Chapman, Fred

Crosetti, Frankie

Croucher, Frank

Hudson, Johnny

Mattick, Bobby

Myers, Billy

Perry, Boyd

Peters, Rusty

Pofahl, Jimmy

Rizzuto, Phil

Strange, Alan

Sturgeon, Bobby Outfield

Bell, Beau

Benjamin, Stan

Bordagaray, Frenchy

Campbell, Soup

Chapman, Ben

Collins, Eddie

Crabtree, Estel

Craft, Harry

Demaree, Frank

Edwards, Hank

Gilbert, Charlie

Gleeson, Jim

Goodman, Ival

Harris, Ned

Klein, Chuck

Koy, Ernie

Leiber, Hank

Lukon, Eddie

Marty, Joe

Miles, Dee

Mullin, Pat

Novikoff, Lou

Olsen, Barney

Ortiz, Roberto

Ripple, Jimmy

Rizzo, Johnny

Rosenthal, Larry

Ross, Chet

Rucker, Johnny

Selkirk, George

Solters, Moose

Stainback, Tuck

Stewart, Bud

Triplett, Coaker

Valo, Elmer

Vanrobays, Maurice

Vosmik, Joe

Waner, Lloyd

Wasdell, Jimmy

Welaj, Johnny

11/6/2009 9:02 AM
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Pitchers

Adams, Ace

Anderson, Red

Appleton, Pete

Babich, Johnny

Bauers, Russ

Bowman, Joe

Branch, Norm

Bruner, Roy

Caligiuri, Fred

Caster, George

Chase, Ken

Dean, Chubby

Dickman, Emerson

Dietz, Dutch

Eaves, Vallie

Eisenstat, Harry

Erickson, Paul

Ferrick, Tom

Giebell, Floyd

Gorsica, Johnny

Hadley, Bump

Hallett, Jack

Harris, Bob

Harris, Lum

Hoerst, y

Hughes, Tommy

Hughson, Tex

Johnson, Art

Kennedy, Vern

Krakauskas, Joe

Lamanna, Frank

Marchildon, Phil

McCrabb, Les

McKain, Archie

Melton, Rube

Moore, Whitey

Muncrief, Bob

Nahem, Sam

Newlin, Maury

Newsome, Dick

Olsen, Vern

Pearson, Ike

Peek, Steve

Pollet, Howie

Posedel, Bill

Queen, Mel

Root, Charlie

Stanceu, Charley

Tamulis, Vito

Thompson, Junior

Trotter, Bill

White, Ernie

Wicker, Kemp

Wilkie, y

Wilson, Jack

Wittig, Johnnie

Wynn, Early

Zuber, Bill





11/6/2009 9:04 AM
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*** The 1941 WESPL Draft is Open....No skipped picks until we start scheduled slots on Monday - November 9

once you have posted your pick, please sitemail the next 2 owners ***

Jtpsops may post the first pick
11/6/2009 9:06 AM
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Well, he may not help me in the next year or two, but with an eye on building a future dynasty, Boston selects P Early Wynn
11/6/2009 5:30 PM
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This draft blows. We'll take Phil Rizzuto, SS.
11/6/2009 10:23 PM
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Tex Hughson, P
11/7/2009 6:11 PM
gonoles777
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the New York Yankees select Howie Pollet (P)
11/7/2009 6:29 PM
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*****TRADE ALERT *****

Washington trades its 1st round pick to Pittsburgh for its 2nd round pick and its 1st round pick in 1942 draft........

.......contrarian to confirm

11/9/2009 1:31 PM
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confirmed

11/9/2009 1:35 PM
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I believe that I now have the next two picks in the draft.

Pittsburgh selects:

C Walker Cooper
P Ernie White

And Pittsburgh is done drafting.
11/9/2009 1:36 PM
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that was quick...we hardly knew you were here

11/9/2009 1:43 PM
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