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bdixon
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I'm looking for help understanding what it takes to get a DI job. Before my last season at DII I wanted any DI job but couldn't get one. At that time my overall record was 200-99 with NT appearances in 4 of 8 seasons in DII. In my last 4 seasons, which, if I understand correctly, is what they primarily look at, I had 1 PSI and 2 NT's with 1 elite 8 appearance. It seems like I've seen other coaches, at the DI level, who's resume's weren't quite as strong over the last 4 or overall. What am I not understanding?
2/26/2010 8:06 AM
reinsel
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You need back to back NT seasons I think. That will do it, you were probably very close after your second year, but then the losing record in year 3 hurt.

You now have the longevity at D2, just need the success, although this was a good year.
2/26/2010 9:02 AM
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Is it possible to jump from division III right to division I? I was thinking of moving up but every single div II school said it was a step backwards and I'm not qualified for any div I job. So if I stay put for awhile would I eventually be able to jump to div I?
2/27/2010 7:26 PM
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No allan. You need D2 experience before making it to D 1.
2/27/2010 7:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By allan5snas on 2/27/2010Is it possible to jump from division III right to division I? I was thinking of moving up but every single div II school said it was a step backwards and I'm not qualified for any div I job. So if I stay put for awhile would I eventually be able to jump to div I?


It used to be possible a long time ago, but I think now that it's been made almost impossible to do.
2/27/2010 7:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By allan5snas on 2/27/2010Is it possible to jump from division III right to division I? I was thinking of moving up but every single div II school said it was a step backwards and I'm not qualified for any div I job. So if I stay put for awhile would I eventually be able to jump to div I?
yes it is possible, you need to have A LOT of wins (400+) at DIII. this past off season in Knight, I was eligible for about 75 or so DI jobs without DII experience, and without a ton of success in the DIII NT. Every DII job was a step back for me. I have 494 wins at DIII though, so that is what it takes
2/27/2010 8:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure i was qualified to jump straight to D1 from D3 last year in Rupp. But it was only for jobs in the D range.
2/27/2010 8:10 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by jeremyboz on 2/27/2010No allan. You need D2 experience before making it to D 1.

Billy G did it under gillispie1 in Tark. He jumped from Howard Payne (many seasons there, coming off a title, and a Final Four two years before that) to CSU, Northridge. I think it was D or D-. I personally think his goal was to jump from D3 to D1 with this account to get another notch in his belt of greatness.
2/27/2010 9:18 PM
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I have never coached in DII - I jumped from Lawrence (A/A+ prestige, went about 250-125 in my tenure there, built up the program from a sim wasteland in 12 seasons, won the NT in my tenth season) to Vermont (D- prestige, Patriot League.)

So it's doable. If you coach at DII with some success, you can jump straight to a midmajor.
2/27/2010 9:54 PM
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Yeah, I wish I could remember the coach and / or the team, but I remember a very successful coach in D3 Crum made the jump to a low level D1 team a few seasons ago.
2/28/2010 3:06 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By cornfused on 2/27/2010I have never coached in DII - I jumped from Lawrence (A/A+ prestige, went about 250-125 in my tenure there, built up the program from a sim wasteland in 12 seasons, won the NT in my tenth season) to Vermont (D- prestige, Patriot League.)

So it's doable. If you coach at DII with some success, you can jump straight to a midmajor.

It's possible to jump straight from D2 to a BCS conference, but it may require an extended stay with ALOT of success at the D2 level. I've done it a couple of times, but it was to the bottom feeder BCS schools.
2/28/2010 8:19 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By jfinn19 on 2/27/2010I'm pretty sure i was qualified to jump straight to D1 from D3 last year in Rupp. But it was only for jobs in the D range


With the three year run you had, I'd say that you could have made that move, had you wanted to. That's quite a resume!
2/28/2010 8:20 AM
allan5snas
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Thanks for the input guys! Im just too fond of my program at Clarkson to wanna leave to a div II thats a step backwards. Eventually I wanna further my coaching career at the highest level but for now I just love my job too much.
2/28/2010 2:19 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By jeremyboz on 2/27/2010No allan. You need D2 experience before making it to D 1


this is wrong... I had could have done dIII to mid major DI... but i was back to back NC with a 3rd NCG afterwards.
2/28/2010 2:57 PM
ericbfor3
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Ahh......I just found out who it was I was referring to in my earlier post. Cyben5150 made the jump a few seasons ago in D3 Crum from Johnson St. (where he was very successful) to UNH.
2/28/2010 3:09 PM
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