Stadium buyer’s remorse Topic

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I just drafted RFK Stadium in a draft league, and now I'm suffering a case of buyer's remorse. Just to see what other owners think, what kind of a team would you put in RFK?

Park ratings: -2 -1 0 -2 -2 0.94

Teams in this league have payrolls varying from $150m to $223m.
3/23/2010 12:51 AM
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I'd try to lead the league in walks, hit a few triples, steal a few bases, and never use that stadium again.
3/23/2010 12:55 AM
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RFK is Safeco Lite. I use it when I'm concerned about fatigue but want just a little more punch than Safeco offers, either because I have some XBH or my htting is too anemic to score in safeco. I'd have some stellar pitching but not enough of it, walks and speed, not much power. RFK would be more useful at a lower cap.
3/23/2010 1:02 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By rbow923 on 3/23/2010What Booger said
3/23/2010 1:21 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 3/23/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By rbow923 on 3/23/2010
What Booger said. except the part about never using it again. one of my favorite anti-fatigue ballparks
3/23/2010 1:28 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by rbow923 on 3/23/2010RFK is Safeco Lite. I use it when I'm concerned about fatigue but want just a little more punch than Safeco offers, either because I have some XBH or my htting is too anemic to score in safeco. I'd have some stellar pitching but not enough of it, walks and speed, not much power. RFK would be more useful at a lower cap.
Why more useful at a lower cap?

Here's what I've never been able to grasp about stadium selection: Barring quirky features (such as Petco or Hilltop), if the stadium hurts/helps hitters or pitchers, why doesn't it help or hurt equally, that is home team vs. visiting team?

Why wouldn't it be better to have a high-cap team with pitchers with, say, .229 OAV# homeported in RFK than in Veterans Stadium, or Shibe Park, or Arlington? If the same team has strong batting average hitters with fair power and slightly better than average overall OBP, why wouldn't they outhit (or fail to outhit) the opposition by the same amount regardless of park used?

I don't have a freaky team that requires a freaky park, but I do have some vulnerability in the pitching staff in OAV and in HR9+...
3/23/2010 5:22 PM
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^ low cap teams have more trouble drafting enough PAand IP. a pitchers ballpark is more appealing here because you dont need as many IP and PA. High cap teams generally have enough quantity they dont need to worry about such things. no problem with RFK, you just dont benefit from what I consider to be its best asset.

ballpark hurts/helps both teams equally only if they have similar teams. If you hit more HR than you give up then a +HR park benefits you more than your opponent. choose ballparks that increase your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. You gain an advantage though it may be very small and ballpark selection is probably overrated around here.
3/23/2010 9:25 PM
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That being said, as I've said many times before, good teams...say .550 winning % and over, seem to win more games on the road than at home...
3/23/2010 10:42 PM
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I forgot about richard.
3/24/2010 12:59 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by richard3244 on 3/23/2010That being said, as I've said many times before, good teams...say .550 winning % and over, seem to win more games on the road than at home...

Very interesting...
3/24/2010 1:30 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by richard3244 on 3/23/2010That being said, as I've said many times before, good teams...say .550 winning % and over, seem to win more games on the road than at home...

As usual, I'll disagree with you on this, but unlike normally, I've only got two teams that meet your criteria this time, but here are there records:

Team: Home W-L Home W% Road W-L Road W% W-L W%

Heart of Stone: 40-31 .563 40-33 .548 80-64 .556

Not Sure I Thought...: 40-18 .690 31-32 .492 71-50 .587

Cumulative: 80-49 .620 71-65 .522 151-114 .570

Both teams are better at home, but then, that is true for virtually all of my teams, whether they're above .550 or below.

For the record, Heart of Stone is from a $60m theme league and plays in Angel Stadium. While Not Sure I Thought This Though Well... is from a fielding test theme league and plays in Wrigley.
3/24/2010 2:14 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by just4me on 3/24/2010As usual, I'll disagree with you on this, but unlike normally, I've only got two teams that meet your criteria this time, but here are there records:

Team: Home W-L Home W% Road W-L Road W% W-L W%

Heart of Stone: 40-31 .563 40-33 .548 80-64 .556

Not Sure I Thought...: 40-18 .690 31-32 .492 71-50 .587

Cumulative: 80-49 .620 71-65 .522 151-114 .570

Both teams are better at home, but then, that is true for virtually all of my teams, whether they're above .550 or below.

For the record, Heart of Stone is from a $60m theme league and plays in Angel Stadium. While Not Sure I Thought This Though Well... is from a fielding test theme league and plays in Wrigley.

Further, in looking at the two leagues above, between them there are 17 teams at a .545 W% or better. Of those 17, 11 are clearly better at home, 2 are split evenly, and just 4 are better on the road.
3/24/2010 2:31 AM
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I just put together a Spring League team based on another post about three man rotations. I used 02 Jack Taylor, 03 Taylor and 08 Joss. At a cost of about $35 million, I wanted to get the biggest bang for my buck.

I noted they had given up a TOTAL of 6 home runs between them in 1100 innings pitched. (Their performance history indicated this held true in league play)I will have them playing at Atlanta Fulton County Stadium that has a +3 HR rating.

The offense is guys like Cy Williams, Clemente, Ennis and like minded guys that hit around 25 HR's so I can take advantage of the HR potential of my offense while highlighting my strenght.
3/24/2010 5:30 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by richard3244 on 3/23/2010That being said, as I've said many times before, good teams...say .550 winning % and over, seem to win more games on the road than at home...

This is not wrong until you remove "seem to."

Then again, you thought Sarah Palin was smart and capable. Perhaps you should stop trusting how things seem to you.

3/24/2010 9:13 AM
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I looked at the 3 leagues I'm in that have played the most games...leagues # 88555, 88658, and 88700, all open leagues...teams have a home record of 799-526...road record of 808-517...as you see, slightly better on the road than at home...this was based on the 18 teams in those leagues that had a .550 or better W/L record...
3/24/2010 10:20 AM
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