Rule V -30TH LEG - Franchise / Player Draft Thread Topic

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This league makes any franchise a contender, and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-2009) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of franchise win percentage from 1969 through the end of 2009 (the worst teams pick first). Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
6/2 Avg. AAA

No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and 2009
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be runs scored from the previous season, higher number picks first

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season.

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

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11/3/2010 10:37 AM
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Franchise Available & Winning Percentage

Tampa Bay Rays                                                    .437
San Diego Padres                                                 .463 - holleybard***
Seattle Mariners                                                     .467 - shaybee***
Milwaukee Brewers                                               .473 - moneymen***
Washington Nations/Mon Expos                         .473 - marlowe***
Florida Marlins                                                         .477 - jose can u c**
Colorado Rockies                                                   .477 - Disco Dogs**
KC Royals                                                                .480 - mussopini23***
Cleveland Indians                                                   .481 - tridentric***
Texas Rangers/Wash Senators                          .482 - moneybonn***
Detroit Tigers                                                           .483
Chicago Cubs                                                          .483
Pittsburgh Pirates                                                    .485
Arizona Diamondbacks                                          .490 - ff09***
Toronto Blue Jays                                                    .495 - llcoach**
Minnesota Twins                                                     .496 - spoonfed***
Philadelphia Phillies                                               .499 - newarkwilder***
Chicago White Sox                                                  .499 - sinfonian11***
New York Mets                                                         .499 - twfan***
Anaheim/Cali Angels                                              .501 - mllama54***
San Francisco Giants                                            .507 - jstewart281***
Baltimore Orioles                                                   .510
Houston Astros                                                       .510 - schwarze***
Atlanta Braves                                                         .514 - Cheno5***
St. Louis Cardinals                                                .518 - shawbigred***
Oakland A's                                                             .519 - georgedeer***
Cincinnati Reds                                                      .519 - truemen***
Los Angeles Dodgers                                           .532
Boston Red Sox                                                      .542 - Robin4***
New York Yankees                                                 .558 - specsman***

 
* = Protects are in
** = 2nd Round Keeper in

11/21/2010 11:57 AM (edited)
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Franchise draft order 

1.       schwarze         - Houston Astros
2.       shawbigred     - St. Louis Cardinals
3.       truemen           - Cincinnati Reds
4.       Robin4             - Boston Red Sox
5.       Disco Dogs     - Colorado Rockies
6.       georgedeer     - Oakland A's
7.       Cheno5            - Atlanta Braves
8.       newarkwilder  - Philadelphia Phillies
9.       specsman       - New York Yankees
10.     twfan                 - New York Mets
11.     jose can u c    - Florida Marlins
12.     spoonfed         - Minnesota Twins
13.     shaybee          - Seattle Mariners
14.     mussopini23  - KC Royals
15.     holleybard       - San Diego Padres
16.     marlowe          - Mon/Wash Expos/Nats
17.     jstewart281    - SF Giants
18.     tridentric          - Cleveland Indians
19.     mllama54       - CA/Anaheim Angels
20.     sinfonian11    - Chicago White Sox
21.     ff09                   - Arizona Diamondbacks
22.     moneybonn    - Texas Rangers
23.     moneymen     - Milwaukee Brewers
24.     llcoach             - Toronto Blue Jays

 
email list: schwarze;shawbigred;truemen;Robin4;pugs;georgedeer;Cheno5;newarkwilder;specsman;mussopini23;jose can u c;spoonfed;shaybee;Blue911;holleybard;marlowe;jstewart281;tridentric;mllama54;sinfonian11;ff09;moneybonn;moneymen;llcoach

 

11/12/2010 10:45 AM (edited)
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SAVED FOR ALIGNMENT  / PROTECTS

NL East - Atlanta, NY Mets, Wash/Mon, Phillies
NL Central - Reds, Cards, Astros, Brewers
NL West - Giants, Rockies, Padres, Diamondbacks

AL East - Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Marlins
AL Central - Twins, Indians, White Sox, Royals
AL West - A's, Rangers, Angels, Mariners

holleybard (Padres) –  Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Gary Sheffield, Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Mark McGwire-StL, Dave Roberts, Paul O'Neil-NYY, Mark Loretta, Omar Vizquel-CLE
 

shaybee (Mariners) –  Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Cliff Lee, Ken Griffey Jr., A-Rod, Ken Caminiti-SDP, Brett Boone, Kevin Mitchell-SF, Edgar Martinez, Troy Percival-ANA
 

moneymen (Brewers) –  Robin Yount, Teddy Higuera, Ben Sheets, Rollie Fingers, CC Sabathia, Roger Clemens-Hou, Prince Fielder, Reggie Jackson-OAK, Mike Caldwell, Gary Carter-NYM

 

marlowe (Expos/Nats) -   Pedro Martinez, Vlad Guerrero, Tim Raines, Gary Carter, Larry Walker, Catfish Hunter-NYY, Jose Vidro, Rico Petrocelli-BOS, Dennis Martinez, Grady Sizemore-CLE
 

jose can u c (Marlins) -   Kevin Brown, Gary Sheffield, Hanley Ramirez, Miguel Cabrera, Mike Piazza, Mike Norris-OAK, Armando Benitez, Bernie Williams-NYY, Josh Johnson, Dave Righetti-NYY
 

Disco Dogs (Rockies) -  Troy Tulowitski, Umboldo Jimenez, Vinny Castilla, Larry Walker, Todd Helton, JR Richard-HOU, Ellis Burks, Nolan Ryan-HOU, Eric Young
 

mussopini23 (Royals) -   George Brett, Brett Saberhagen, Zack Greinke, David Cone, Darrell Porter, Nomar Garciaparra-BOS, Roger Nelson, Carl Yastrzemski-BOS, Dan Quisenberry, Chuck Knoblauch-MIN
 

tridentric (Indians) -  Cliff Lee, Gaylord Perry, Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, Jim Thome, Joe Torre-StL, Bert Blyleven, Roy Halladay-Phillies, Roberto Alomar, Bobby Murcer-NYY

 

moneybonn (Rangers) -   A-Rod, Josh Hamilton, Ivan Rodriguez, Julio Franco, Nolan Ryan, Kevin Milwood-ATL, Neftali Perez, Willie McGee-STL, Jeff Zimmerman, Steve McCatty-OAK
 

ff09 (DBacks) -   Luis Gonzalez, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Brandon Webb, Steve Finley, Rickey Henderson-NYY, Matt Williams, Carlos Delgado-TOR, Danny Haren
 

llcoach (Blue Jays) -   Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Mark Eichhorn, John Olerud, Tony Fernandez, Ichiro Suzuki-SEA, BJ Ryan, Lenny Dykstra-PHI, Duane Ward, Jonathan Papelbon-BOS
 

spoonfed (Twins) -   Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Kirby Puckett, Johan Santana, Bert Blyleven, Derek Lowe-BOS, Joe Nathan, Cliff Lee-TEX, Juan Rincon, Toby Harrah-TEX
 

newarkwilder (Phillies) -   Steve Carlton, Chase Utley, Mike Schmidt, Curt Schilling, Ryan Howard, Kevin Appier-KC, Bobby Abreu, Barry Larkin-CIN, Roy Oswalt, Gary Sheffield-ATL
 

sinfonian11 (White Sox) -  Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Bill Melton, Wilbur Wood, Bobby Jenks, CC Sabathia-CLE, Mark Buherle, Bobby Grich-ANA, Keith Foulke, Rick Burleson-ANA
 

twfan (Mets) -  Tom Seaver, Doc Gooden, Pedro Martinez, Mike Piazza, John Olerud, Manny Ramirez-CLE, David Wright, Carlos Gonzalez-COL, Edgardo Alfonzo
 

mllama54 (Angels) -   Darin Erstad, Tim Salmon, Vlad Guerrero, Andy Messersmith, Frank Tanana, Tim Hudson-OAK, Nolan Ryan, Willie Wilson-KC, Bryan Harvey
 

jstewart281 (Giants) -  Barry Bonds, Juan Marichal, Gaylord Perry, Tim Lincecum, Jason Schmidt, Eric Davis-CIN, Willie McCovey, Ozzie Smith-STL, Robb Nen
 

schwarze (Astros) -   Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Lance Berkman, Mike Scott, Larry Dierker, Javy Lopez-ATL, Billy Wagner, Tim Burke-MON, Cesar Cedeno
 

Cheno5 (Braves) -   Brian McCann, Hank Aaron, Chipper Jones, Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Roy Halladay-TOR, Phil Niekro, Andre Dawson-MON, Rafael Furcal
 

shawbigred (Cardinals) -   Albert Pujols, Bob Gibson, John Tudor, Adam Wainwright, Chris Carpenter, George Foster-CIN, Ted Simmons, Heath Bell-SD, Jim Edmonds
 

georgedeer (A’s) -   Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Dennis Eckersley, Darren Daulton-PHI, Miguel Tejada, Harmon Killebrew-MIN, Jose Canseco
 

truemen (Reds) -   Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Tom Seaver, Jose Rijo, Mario Soto, Jimmy Rollins-PHI, Pete Rose, Andruw Jones-ATL, Danny Jackson
 

Robin4 (Red Sox) -   Carlton Fisk, Fred Lynn, Wade Boggs, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Mike Witt-ANA, Dwight Evans, Don Wilson-HOU, John Valentin
 

specsman (Yankees) -  Derek Jeter, A-Rod, Robinson Cano, Ron Guidry, Fritz Peterson, Scott Garrelts-SF, Mariano Rivera, Juan Guzman-TOR, Jorge Posada







11/22/2010 3:56 PM (edited)
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SAVED FOR Draft Rounds 1 - 3
 
           RD. # 1                                                                                                                   Off the Board
1.   holleybard (Padres) -         Mark McGwire - Cardinals                         
2.   shaybee (Mariners) -         Ken Caminiti - Padres          
3.   moneymen (Brewers) -      Roger Clemens - Astros            
4.   marlowe (Expos/Nats) -     Catfish Hunter - Yankees        
5.   jose can u c (Marlins) -      Mike Norris - A's             
6.   Disco Dogs (Rockies) -      J.R. Richard - Astros                                                                Astros 
7.   mussopini23 (Royals) -      Nomar Garciaparra - Red Sox              
8.   tridentric (Indians) -           Joe Torre - Cardinals                                                              Cardinals
9.   moneybonn (Rangers) -     Kevin Milwood - Braves        
10. ff09 (Diamondbacks) -        Rickey Henderson - Yankees                                                  Yankees                   
11. llcoach (Blue Jays) -          Ichiro Suzuki - Mariners        
12. spoonfed (Twins) -             Derek Lowe - Red Sox                                                            Red Sox
13. newarkwilder (Phillies) -      Kevin Appier - Royals           
14. sinfonian11 (White Sox) -   CC Sabathia - Indians       
15. twfan (Mets) -                    Manny Ramirez - Indians                                                        Indians  
16. mllama54 (Angels) -           Tim Hudson - A's                                                                     A's 
17. jstewart281 (Giants) -         Eric Davis - Reds       
18. schwarze (Astros) -            Javy Lopez - Braves                                                               Braves          
19. Cheno5 (Braves) -               Roy Halladay - Blue Jays     
20. shawbigred (Cardinals) -      George Foster - Reds                                                             Reds   
21. georgedeer (A's) -               Darren Daulton - Phillies          
22. truemen (Reds) -                Jimmy Rollins - Phillies                                                          Phillies
23. Robin4 (Red Sox) -             Mike Witt - Angels  
24. specsman (Yankees) -          Scott Garrelts - Giants   

           RD. # 2                                                                                                                  Off the Board
1.   holleybard (Padres) -           Paul O'Neil - Yankees               
2.   shaybee (Mariners) -           Kevin Mitchell - Giants         
3.   moneymen (Brewers) -        Reggie Jackson - A's          
4.   marlowe (Expos/Nats) -       Rico Petrocelli - Red Sox      
5.   jose can u c (Marlins) -        Bernie Williams - Yankees                                                    Yankees           
6.   Disco Dogs (Rockies) -        Nolan Ryan - Astros
7.   mussopini23 (Royals) -        Carl Yastrzemski - Red Sox                                                  Red Sox             
8.   tridentric (Indians) -             Roy Halladay - Phillies
9.   moneybonn (Rangers) -        Willie McGee - Cardinals        
10. ff09 (Diamondbacks) -          Carlos Delgado - Blue Jays                  
11. llcoach (Blue Jays) -            Lenny Dykstra - Phillies                                                       Phillies        
12. spoonfed (Twins) -               Cliff Lee - Rangers    
13. newarkwilder (Phillies) -        Barry Larkin - Reds          
14. sinfonian11 (White Sox) -     Bobby Grich - Angels       
15. twfan (Mets) -                      Carlos Gonzalez - Rockies  
16. mllama54 (Angels) -             Willie Wilson - Royals 
17. jstewart281 (Giants) -           Ozzie Smith - Cardinals                                                      Cardinals        
18. schwarze (Astros) -              Tim Burke - Expos/Nats          
19. Cheno5 (Braves) -                Andre Dawson - Expos/Nats                                               Expos/Nats      
20. shawbigred (Cardinals) -        Heath Bell - Padres  
21. georgedeer (A's) -                 Harmon Killebrew - Twins         
22. truemen (Reds) -                  Andrew Jones - Braves
23. Robin4 (Red Sox) -               Don Wilson - Astros                                                              Astros 
24. specsman (Yankees) -            Juan Guzman - Blue Jays                                                                     Blue Jays

           RD. # 3                                                                                                                 Off the Board
1.   holleybard (Padres) -            Omar Vizquel - Indians               
2.   shaybee (Mariners) -            Troy Percival - Angels        
3.   moneymen (Brewers) -         Gary Carter - Mets         
4.   marlowe (Expos/Nats) -        Grady Sizemore - Indians                                                  Indians
5.   jose can u c (Marlins) -         Dave Righetti - Yankees          
6.   Disco Dogs (Rockies) -         Tom Glavine - Braves
7.   mussopini23 (Royals) -         Chuck Knoblauch - Twins            
8.   tridentric (Indians) -              Bobby Murcer - Yankees                                                   Yankees
9.   moneybonn (Rangers) -         Steve McCatty - A's       
10. ff09 (Diamondbacks) -           Jose DeLeon - Cardinals                 
11. llcoach (Blue Jays) -             Jonathan Papelbon - Red Sox       
12. spoonfed (Twins) -                Toby Harrah - Rangers   
13. newarkwilder (Phillies) -         Gary Sheffield - Braves                                                      Braves
14. sinfonian11 (White Sox) -       Rick Burleson - Angels                                                      Angels     
15. twfan (Mets) -                       Trevor Hoffman - Padres
16. mllama54 (Angels) -              Rich Aurilia - Giants
17. jstewart281 (Giants) -            Dustin Pedroia - Red Sox                                                  Red Sox       
18. schwarze (Astros) -               Doug Jones - Brewers         
19. Cheno5 (Braves) -                 Carlos Beltran - Mets                                                          Mets     
20. shawbigred (Cardinals) -         Tug McGraw - Phillies  
21. georgedeer (A's) -                  Dennis Leonard - Royals        
22. truemen (Reds) -                    Scott Rolen - Cardinals                                                  Cardinals
23. Robin4 (Red Sox) -                Jeff Kent - Giants                                                              Giants
24. specsman (Yankees) -              Jose Bautista - Blue Jays                                                                
 
 
11/23/2010 11:42 AM (edited)
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In all the years I've played in this theme, I've never drafted high enough to get this team...

Houston Astros

11/3/2010 12:50 PM
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the team winning %'s probably need to be adjusted to include 2010
11/3/2010 1:37 PM
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Posted by moneymen on 11/3/2010 1:37:00 PM (view original):
the team winning %'s probably need to be adjusted to include 2010
agreed. i sent a SM to pini earlier pointing out that the '10 players are already here.
11/3/2010 1:51 PM
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2010 players are out, gotcha, thanks guys! didn't know if they were released yet
11/3/2010 1:55 PM
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Posted by holleybard on 11/3/2010 1:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moneymen on 11/3/2010 1:37:00 PM (view original):
the team winning %'s probably need to be adjusted to include 2010
agreed. i sent a SM to pini earlier pointing out that the '10 players are already here.
Does someone have time to send me an updated list with winning %'s??
11/3/2010 2:01 PM
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TBD 0.437
SDP 0.463
SEA 0.467
MIL 0.473
WSN 0.473
FLA 0.477
COL 0.477
KCR 0.480
CLE 0.481
TEX 0.482
DET 0.483
CHC 0.483
PIT 0.485
ARI 0.490
TOR 0.495
MIN 0.496
PHI 0.499
CHW 0.499
NYM 0.499
ANA 0.501
SFG 0.507
BAL 0.510
HOU 0.510
ATL 0.514
STL 0.518
OAK 0.519
CIN 0.519
LAD 0.532
BOS 0.542
NYY 0.558
11/3/2010 2:20 PM
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FLA .4767
COL .4770
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DET .4827
CHC .4831
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PHI .4987
CHW .4990
NYM .4991
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BAL .5097
HOU .5102
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OAK .5190
CIN .5191

but please, someone check my math in case I messed up the spreadsheet.
11/3/2010 2:23 PM
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thanks Newark!!
11/3/2010 2:58 PM
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I'll try the St. Louis Cardinals
11/3/2010 3:08 PM
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The noob takes the Big Red Machine

11/3/2010 3:21 PM
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