I sent a ticket in today hoping there is a change made in recruiting dough.  Tell me ure opinions....I am at a mid major conf. We are a descent team. I look at the major conferences and over the seasons the numbers of sims have increased so less openings in major conf's and more in mid majors... 1st the majors dont ever get below a c- prestige... The bonus money to the major conf teams is getting out of hand! the Acc at this time has 25000 dollars of bonus money and thats if they lose all of their 2nd round games.  That is almost as much money as a team gets to recuit 2 players. Come on! How can the teams out of the Major 6 compete? They cant especially since they have lowered the mid level guys.  I know what you are going to say. Go to a major conf....Ok I did that and yea its even tougher to recruit because yes you get better recruits than the mids but you still cant compete agst the top teams in the conf because your prestige is so much lower than everyone else in the conf.  Then you play these loaded teams nightly and end up with 8 to 10 wins every season then u are fired.....I am sorry THE RICH get RICHER......I understand most people that read this will say oh well I guess you need to become a top dog in a major to win...come on look at thye nation there are teams that make deep runs into the tourny every year....NOT ! NONMAJOR CONF TEAM advanced in the NT excepted 3 teams and they all played MID LEVEL TEAMS....That is just not fun for the average player... I have been at this for a long time and with the recruits getting worse and worse and there still being studs out there the rich are getting and staying ritch and the poor is getting poorer and poorer!...Truth is in the pudding...look at the NT there it is in black and white...this is in NAISMITH! I understand big school get better players...their prestige is way higher but too heck they can recruit 1 guy and spend the bonus money and get him and I blow all my budget for 3 guys and not get him plus they got 45000 in the bank.....its getting outta hand...something has to be done

When I read this the first time I thought this guy was just bitter from having lost with his mid-major team, but he might actually have a point.  In Tark D1, 30 of the 32 teams in the 2nd Round were from power conferences and all 16 in the Sweet 16 were from power conferences.  It wasn't just the traditional teams either, you have lower level teams from these conferences in the sweet 16 while teams with similar baselines aren't there.  I think he might have a point, but this is anecdotal evidence from one world that I'm in right now.  It very well could be that we did see a migration away from mid-majors after the change and the next wave of coaches are starting to fill up the low d1 ranks and in a couple seasons we will see that team or two out of a non-power conference make a run.

I doubt the powers that be see this as a problem, but I agree with your post.  There is little incentive to play at a mid-major right now as you cannot compete with the bigs and have little chance of tournament success because the talent gap is too great.  I have noticed that not only are the top schools getting the best talent with little competition, but they are also signing those in the middle with the most upside.  Fewer coaches seem to be moving up to DI and more are content to stay at DII.  Those that are frustrated by the current system quit the game.  I don't think it is good for the game, but it is where we are at DI.
 

Recruiting money isnt the problem.

The shiitty recruit generation thats been in place the last several years is.

Well you did a great job with Raybon and the big that you got aint too shabby. I'm just starting off at DI though, so I probably haven't experienced near the aggravation that may ensue. 

Posted by mullycj on 3/28/2011 8:15:00 PM (view original):
Recruiting money isnt the problem.

The shiitty recruit generation thats been in place the last several years is.

Bingo.

The bottom line is that for a long time, it was common to see DI tourneys loaded with low/mid DI teams, and for those teams to make deep runs. And the postseason money was exactly the same.

The change is in recruit generation, and that's the problem.

Recruit generation is definitely a large part of the problem, but not all of it.

Great lets FIX IT!

Posted by hoosierchap on 3/28/2011 9:31:00 PM (view original):
Recruit generation is definitely a large part of the problem, but not all of it.

hoosier, with the exact same setup for NT money, low/mid DI was awesome before the recruit generation changes. You and I know that as well as anyone, having both been coaches at awesome non-BCS programs (and conferences) in Allen.

So if low/mid DI was that robust and successful before with the same money structure that currently exists ... I don't think you have to be a super sleuth to figure that one out.

I agree its the recruit generation that is the issue.  Is there a simple prescription for how to fix it?

Why should it be as easy to win at Cleveland State as it is for Purdue?

Shouldn't it be easier to recruit from a Big 6 school than from a Mid Major?

Do we want the Div-1 game to be 324 teams where each team has the same chance to win / recruit ... or do we want it to model real life where the McDonalds All Americans congregate at teams like Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Texas, etc.

I am just starting out in Div-1, but I do not expect my Dartmouth or IUPUI team to be able to recruit as well as Indiana or Syracuse.  Do we really want that to be able to happen?

No but its swung way too far in favor of the major conferences in recent seasons.

Posted by hughesjr on 3/29/2011 8:25:00 AM (view original):
Why should it be as easy to win at Cleveland State as it is for Purdue?

Shouldn't it be easier to recruit from a Big 6 school than from a Mid Major?

Do we want the Div-1 game to be 324 teams where each team has the same chance to win / recruit ... or do we want it to model real life where the McDonalds All Americans congregate at teams like Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Texas, etc.

I am just starting out in Div-1, but I do not expect my Dartmouth or IUPUI team to be able to recruit as well as Indiana or Syracuse.  Do we really want that to be able to happen?

No one is saying it should be just as easy, that they should be equal.

People are simply saying that right now the divide is too great.

I also agree it is the recruit generation. It use to be that low/mid majors could still get some very nice players but with lack of depth in recruits it has become much more difficult. The top prestige schools have always been able to get the best talent, nothing has changed on that front nor should it. What has changed is the number of top recruits as well as the talent level of the recruits in the middle. There just doesn't seem to be enough to go around in my opinion.