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they both have approx. 4-5 points to improve in most pitching areas.
6/13/2011 7:22 AM
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Hernandez could pitch in the ML now.  Spencer has a lot of improving to do. 
6/13/2011 8:42 AM
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Hernandez will be a solid, 180 IP, 4.00 ERA ML pitcher if he has a decent defense behind him.  Spencer is a Mopup pitcher or, at best, an LRB with an ERA closer to 5.00.
6/13/2011 9:08 AM
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why dont you like spencer is it his pitchs? or splits? doesnt his high vel. and ctrl. make up for some of that? neither would be a starter both long a.
6/13/2011 9:10 AM
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i have a real good team been the runner up 3 straight seasons really sucks! i have been top 3 in both def. and pitching.
6/13/2011 9:13 AM
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I think they produce almost identical results.   It's a coin-flip in my opinion.
6/13/2011 9:15 AM
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That's based on where they are at this very moment. 
6/13/2011 9:15 AM
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And both are long relievers.   If you have to start them, your team needs to be better.
6/13/2011 9:16 AM
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both long a only plan on bringing up 1 i might start them 1 or 2 times, i have a real good prospect i am calling up after game 20.
6/13/2011 9:34 AM
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this is the real good pitcher i am calling up after game 20.
6/13/2011 9:49 AM
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I've seen pitchers with splits like Spencer do well if they have a good set of pitches, with at least one 90+.  His vR is only passable and his vL is only AAA quality, so the fact that he only has mediocre pitches will make him a punching bag for ML hitters. I might agree with Mike about their performance today, but when Hernandez's growth is complete, it looks like he'll end up with with 70+ control, 60+ vL, and 80+ vR, along with a solid set of pitches.  The only thing holding him back from being a real winner is his unimpressive gb/fb ratio.  He reminds me of my SP4: http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1660877
6/13/2011 10:17 AM (edited)
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The average control, low velocity and poor GB are why he's downgraded.   He'll walk batters without stiking out many and give up a lot of flyballs(which can turn into homers).   He'll have a better OAV than Spencer but his WHIP/ERA will be very similar.

6/13/2011 10:31 AM
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Spencer is a little better in my opinion.  I see Spencer as a very marginal ML pitcher right now, and Hernandez as not even that.  When they finish developing I think Spencer will be a reasonable 9th pitcher, a viable LRA for a contender, and Hernandez will be a little better than Spencer is now, a nice LRB/mopup/SP6 when your rotation needs to be reset.

6/13/2011 10:55 AM
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your crazy on hernandez a 6th at best when said and done. i disagree. his control will end up close to a 70 not great but not bad his left will be in the 60s his right close to an 80 . his vel. isnt great but i have seen worse will end up around a 40
6/13/2011 11:27 AM
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