Is there a point where velocity matters? Topic

rbedwell
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HBD pitchers with low velocity can be very effective if their other ratings are top notch. Is there a point where it is just too low to be overcome? Case in point: whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/ProspectProfile.aspx  Will thi guy be as effective as his other ratings seem to indicate?
11/23/2011 1:03 AM (edited)
MikeT23
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I'd never completely ignore velocity.
11/23/2011 6:54 AM
rbedwell
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Oh, I agree, which is why I'm asking. Has anyone had a pitcher with velocity of under 20 be a dominant pitcher?
11/23/2011 10:52 AM
tecwrg
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We can't see the player that you tried to link.
11/23/2011 10:55 AM
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Posted by rbedwell on 11/23/2011 10:52:00 AM (view original):
Oh, I agree, which is why I'm asking. Has anyone had a pitcher with velocity of under 20 be a dominant pitcher?
haven't really seen many pitchers w/ < 20 velocity at the ML level, but if he has good control/splits/pitches, it won't preclude him from being effective.  he'll just be a lil worse than he would be with a higher velocity.
11/23/2011 10:58 AM
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Over time I have paid less attention to velocity.  I still notice it, but have seen pitchers that dominate with velocity of 35 or less.  It is one of the ratings I treat as gravy, providing all others are good.  It doesn't make or break a player in my book.
11/23/2011 10:58 AM
rbedwell
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This guy shown above is an extreme case. His projections show an eventual Cy Young Award-level pitcher except for velocity, which is projected to top out at less than 15. Opinions?
11/23/2011 11:04 AM
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Posted by rbedwell on 11/23/2011 11:04:00 AM (view original):
This guy shown above is an extreme case. His projections show an eventual Cy Young Award-level pitcher except for velocity, which is projected to top out at less than 15. Opinions?
can't see the guy but if everything else is very good i'm sure he'll be fine
11/23/2011 11:08 AM
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I don't think it would prevent him from winning some Cy Youngs, if that's what you're asking.
11/23/2011 11:23 AM
Crump123
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K/9 will be less than average, but if you have a good defense it shouldn't make any difference.
11/23/2011 11:40 AM
jvford
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This guy had a nice career:

www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx
11/23/2011 11:52 AM
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This guy is probably not considered dominant, but still quite effective: Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Sherry Clay.
11/23/2011 1:29 PM
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I will use a player with low velocity, but you have to temper your expectations if he also has a poor GB/FB rating.
11/23/2011 2:09 PM
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http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=2135400

His velocity isn't under 20, its 23... but I'd be willing to bet if it was 5 pts lower and at 18, he'd still be a stud.

I tend to agree with rangerup's assessment of velocity...

"Over time I have paid less attention to velocity.  I still notice it, but have seen pitchers that dominate with velocity of 35 or less.  It is one of the ratings I treat as gravy, providing all others are good.  It doesn't make or break a player in my book."
 
11/23/2011 2:10 PM
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Will Friend hasn't suffered particularly from a velo of 18.  He's a stud.

And 39 isn't 18, but Raul Flores has won 4 Cy Young's with a 39 velo.
11/23/2011 3:34 PM
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