I just wanted to see how everyone felt about the job application process in terms of becoming eligible for jobs. I'm mostly talking about D1 Big 6 jobs. I know when looking for a job, the system considers your past 10 seasons (among other things) when determining your eligibility for a given job. I know recent seasons are weighted more heavily than older season, but I personally think 10 seasons is too many. It really punishes you for those rebuilding seasons you might take on when getting a mid-major or lower level D1 school. Just curious as to what everyone else thinks.

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**Sobs in a corner**

Michael Scott sums it up best.....

It is just fine. People need to win more and complain less. Those that want to rush into Big 6 jobs would get creamed in those jobs if they got them. It's a long slow wait, but everyone has to do it and most everyone benefits from the wait, whether they know it or not.

I agree with robinsmd, what if is not realistic at all in that aspect. As well a very good mid major job should not be classified as lower than a bad power conference job. In real hoops there is no way Northwestern is a better job than Gonzaga or Wichita State. As it is presently formatted moving up is almost impossible, in fact more difficult than real life.

um, how can i win more than 85-7 with 2 second round appearances? i looked it up when i had my rant, there are very few coaches that did what i did from a d- prestige, thr only coach was thewizard when he had his final four run his 4th season from d- not even top level coaches have done what i did, until you start looking at coaches that started at C- at much better schools.

here is my rant to cs:

Bistiza probably the best coach to not win a NC, Youngstown State from a D prestige still has not won a NT game starting 61 now 84.

jbasnight has one of the best programs in histroy with syracuse and his New Mexico team from a D prestige has yet to advance past the 1st round in 10 seasons

chapelhillne is easily one of the best coaches right now and his Utah from a C prestige has yet to make it past the first round

psmith17 another great coach has made the 2nd round once from a C- Air Force and has only 1 other NT bid in his 9 seasons.

tarvolon is one of the greatest coaches to play his New Mexico C- team has 1 1st round appearance in 5 seasons.

metsmax is an elite D1 coach and his grambling state from a D+ has 1 2nd round appearance 4 seasons apart from any other NT bid.

Aromano one of the best D1 coaches took D San Fran to the 2nd round in his 3rd season and didn't make the 2nd round again until 6th season while having a good low end D1 conference.

umpikes helped build the SL in Allen and took D+ Mercer took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round before reaching it again in the 8th and a S16 in the 9th season

tianyi is one of the greatest coaches ever and his valp squad took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round(and again in the 8th season) from a D- prestige

tarvolon's oral roberts, darnocc at campbell, cornfused @ Texas Southern, bbunch Colorado St, xlixer @ maine, tarvolon @ yale

more examples of elite (if not hof) coaches that couldn't match what I did with Yale with most of those programs beign higher baseline and better conferences, and yet I'm "punished" because I didn't have the luxury of finding the game earlier and haven't played long enough where I already have one of the best D- rebuilds?


explain to me how staying at yale makes me a better coach?

sure we can look at my Lafayette squad and it doesn't show as good a resume, look at the past rosters it's very talented consistently, i cant coach man or zone and it has killed me and i took a few seasons to learn how to schedule and now its not as big as a problem. and it makes sense i dont have the ability to move up.

id love too seee why you think its more beneficial to stay at these lower prestige schools than to move up?

and unfortunately its still more bullshit sims get no prestige drops.

wake forestt has now gone 8-19 3-24 3-24 and is still a b- which are unobtainable by most schools you have to build up since were genrally capped B/B-

I feel you Only... I'm not qualified for Wake either after building Navy from a D- to a B, including the past 3 seasons of a Sweet 16, 1st round, and 2nd round appearance. Pretty crazy... but oh well

It's totally broken and completly stupid. I mean, it needs to be fixed fast. It is totally discouraging.

I am all with TheOnly on this. It's a subject that needs to be taken care of. D1 is a mess. DII and DIII are allright.

Posted by the0nlyis on 2/27/2016 12:39:00 AM (view original):
um, how can i win more than 85-7 with 2 second round appearances? i looked it up when i had my rant, there are very few coaches that did what i did from a d- prestige, thr only coach was thewizard when he had his final four run his 4th season from d- not even top level coaches have done what i did, until you start looking at coaches that started at C- at much better schools.

here is my rant to cs:

Bistiza probably the best coach to not win a NC, Youngstown State from a D prestige still has not won a NT game starting 61 now 84.

jbasnight has one of the best programs in histroy with syracuse and his New Mexico team from a D prestige has yet to advance past the 1st round in 10 seasons

chapelhillne is easily one of the best coaches right now and his Utah from a C prestige has yet to make it past the first round

psmith17 another great coach has made the 2nd round once from a C- Air Force and has only 1 other NT bid in his 9 seasons.

tarvolon is one of the greatest coaches to play his New Mexico C- team has 1 1st round appearance in 5 seasons.

metsmax is an elite D1 coach and his grambling state from a D+ has 1 2nd round appearance 4 seasons apart from any other NT bid.

Aromano one of the best D1 coaches took D San Fran to the 2nd round in his 3rd season and didn't make the 2nd round again until 6th season while having a good low end D1 conference.

umpikes helped build the SL in Allen and took D+ Mercer took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round before reaching it again in the 8th and a S16 in the 9th season

tianyi is one of the greatest coaches ever and his valp squad took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round(and again in the 8th season) from a D- prestige

tarvolon's oral roberts, darnocc at campbell, cornfused @ Texas Southern, bbunch Colorado St, xlixer @ maine, tarvolon @ yale

more examples of elite (if not hof) coaches that couldn't match what I did with Yale with most of those programs beign higher baseline and better conferences, and yet I'm "punished" because I didn't have the luxury of finding the game earlier and haven't played long enough where I already have one of the best D- rebuilds?


explain to me how staying at yale makes me a better coach?

sure we can look at my Lafayette squad and it doesn't show as good a resume, look at the past rosters it's very talented consistently, i cant coach man or zone and it has killed me and i took a few seasons to learn how to schedule and now its not as big as a problem. and it makes sense i dont have the ability to move up.

id love too seee why you think its more beneficial to stay at these lower prestige schools than to move up?

I am trying to figure out what you are saying - that 85-7 you talk about - that is the three seasons from 107-109 I assume? At the end of that period you had 5 seasons of D1 under that id. 1 of them was a 5-22 1st rebuild season. Does it suck those count, I suppose, but that's the record you got that season, so how's it not supposed to count?

The Ivy now has 6 humans it looks like. How many were human during that run? Either way, 2 16-0s and a 15-1 conference run are nice, yeah, but its still only 3 seasons.

After that period you went 16-11 the next season and missed both tourneys...then this past season you went to the 3rd rd of the PIT...after another 16-0, that still had you miss the NT, so the rest of the Ivy can't be boosting you much there...

So that's 7 D1 seasons total - 2 NT wins in 3 appearances, the last 3 seasons ago...yes, it's a good start, but I personally don't think it's outrageous you can't jump to a decent BCS with that resume. Sorry if that offends, it's not my intent...

the0nly, you could be close though - it would have been better to keep making the NT of course.

Here's an example you might have missed doing your research -

48	dacj501	25-5	9-2	13-2	3-1	14-2		35	103	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (1st Round)
47	dacj501	30-2	8-0	17-1	5-1	16-0	22	20	90	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
46	dacj501	27-4	12-1	11-2	4-1	14-2	25	27	81	B-	CT Champion NT (2nd Round)
45	dacj501	17-13	8-6	6-6	3-1	10-6		85	68	C+
44	dacj501	24-6	9-2	13-2	2-2	16-0		32	69	C+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (1st Round)
43	dacj501	9-18	6-7	3-10	0-1	7-9		197	87	C-
42	dacj501	22-7	9-2	11-4	2-1	11-5		147	324	C-
41	dacj501	6-22	4-12	1-9	1-1	5-11		315	313	C-

That was my run at Marquette in Phelan. After that last season I moved to Florida...

Well, until Division-1 is more than just A+ prestige and more money scoops up every good player and are 12 deep with guys who can be drafted, I will play almost exclusively Div-2 or Div-3, which I find to be very fun, very fair and very competitive.

Posted by dacj501 on 2/27/2016 9:18:00 AM (view original):
the0nly, you could be close though - it would have been better to keep making the NT of course.

Here's an example you might have missed doing your research -

48	dacj501	25-5	9-2	13-2	3-1	14-2		35	103	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (1st Round)
47	dacj501	30-2	8-0	17-1	5-1	16-0	22	20	90	B	Conf Champion CT Champion NT (Sweet 16)
46	dacj501	27-4	12-1	11-2	4-1	14-2	25	27	81	B-	CT Champion NT (2nd Round)
45	dacj501	17-13	8-6	6-6	3-1	10-6		85	68	C+
44	dacj501	24-6	9-2	13-2	2-2	16-0		32	69	C+	Conf Champion NT At-large Bid NT (1st Round)
43	dacj501	9-18	6-7	3-10	0-1	7-9		197	87	C-
42	dacj501	22-7	9-2	11-4	2-1	11-5		147	324	C-
41	dacj501	6-22	4-12	1-9	1-1	5-11		315	313	C-

That was my run at Marquette in Phelan. After that last season I moved to Florida...

You started c- and didn't make your first second round appearance until season 5 there

Posted by dacj501 on 2/27/2016 9:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by the0nlyis on 2/27/2016 12:39:00 AM (view original):
um, how can i win more than 85-7 with 2 second round appearances? i looked it up when i had my rant, there are very few coaches that did what i did from a d- prestige, thr only coach was thewizard when he had his final four run his 4th season from d- not even top level coaches have done what i did, until you start looking at coaches that started at C- at much better schools.

here is my rant to cs:

Bistiza probably the best coach to not win a NC, Youngstown State from a D prestige still has not won a NT game starting 61 now 84.

jbasnight has one of the best programs in histroy with syracuse and his New Mexico team from a D prestige has yet to advance past the 1st round in 10 seasons

chapelhillne is easily one of the best coaches right now and his Utah from a C prestige has yet to make it past the first round

psmith17 another great coach has made the 2nd round once from a C- Air Force and has only 1 other NT bid in his 9 seasons.

tarvolon is one of the greatest coaches to play his New Mexico C- team has 1 1st round appearance in 5 seasons.

metsmax is an elite D1 coach and his grambling state from a D+ has 1 2nd round appearance 4 seasons apart from any other NT bid.

Aromano one of the best D1 coaches took D San Fran to the 2nd round in his 3rd season and didn't make the 2nd round again until 6th season while having a good low end D1 conference.

umpikes helped build the SL in Allen and took D+ Mercer took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round before reaching it again in the 8th and a S16 in the 9th season

tianyi is one of the greatest coaches ever and his valp squad took 7 seasons to make the 2nd round(and again in the 8th season) from a D- prestige

tarvolon's oral roberts, darnocc at campbell, cornfused @ Texas Southern, bbunch Colorado St, xlixer @ maine, tarvolon @ yale

more examples of elite (if not hof) coaches that couldn't match what I did with Yale with most of those programs beign higher baseline and better conferences, and yet I'm "punished" because I didn't have the luxury of finding the game earlier and haven't played long enough where I already have one of the best D- rebuilds?


explain to me how staying at yale makes me a better coach?

sure we can look at my Lafayette squad and it doesn't show as good a resume, look at the past rosters it's very talented consistently, i cant coach man or zone and it has killed me and i took a few seasons to learn how to schedule and now its not as big as a problem. and it makes sense i dont have the ability to move up.

id love too seee why you think its more beneficial to stay at these lower prestige schools than to move up?

I am trying to figure out what you are saying - that 85-7 you talk about - that is the three seasons from 107-109 I assume? At the end of that period you had 5 seasons of D1 under that id. 1 of them was a 5-22 1st rebuild season. Does it suck those count, I suppose, but that's the record you got that season, so how's it not supposed to count?

The Ivy now has 6 humans it looks like. How many were human during that run? Either way, 2 16-0s and a 15-1 conference run are nice, yeah, but its still only 3 seasons.

After that period you went 16-11 the next season and missed both tourneys...then this past season you went to the 3rd rd of the PIT...after another 16-0, that still had you miss the NT, so the rest of the Ivy can't be boosting you much there...

So that's 7 D1 seasons total - 2 NT wins in 3 appearances, the last 3 seasons ago...yes, it's a good start, but I personally don't think it's outrageous you can't jump to a decent BCS with that resume. Sorry if that offends, it's not my intent...

Is 5 seasons not enough, I clearly proved the talent. Personally I do not think rebuilds should count against you because of the way HD is structured but that's a different arguement.

Superclass structure are harder to make the NT every season the 16-11 season was all sophomores and freshmen, not an excuse. Unfortunately had a bad sim this past season so I'm not as angry with not being qualified compared to when I was B prestige.

What should it take to get to big 6, when Noone else really can get 2 NT wins with their first class from D- and then you say it's not enough?

Unfortunately getting to the 3rd round of the pit does nothing for me and is prbably negative, but let's make sure big 6 programs get boosts from making the 2nd round of the PI....

Posted by MyGeneration on 2/26/2016 10:22:00 PM (view original):
It is just fine. People need to win more and complain less. Those that want to rush into Big 6 jobs would get creamed in those jobs if they got them. It's a long slow wait, but everyone has to do it and most everyone benefits from the wait, whether they know it or not.

I'd run train on close to half the current big 6 coaches.