I never really thought about this before but I noticed today, there are a lot of players who have A+ range at their primary position, and also played some games/innings at 1B. Their range ratings at 1B are inflated. It's like the usual pro-rating that is done when players have <20 games was somehow co-opted by their primary position range, or their speed, or something.

2000 Jim Edmonds, A+/A+ (1.000/10.76) ... actual stats 3 games, 7.33 RF/G
1944 Stan Spence, A+/A+ (1.000/11.49) ... actual stats 3 games, 6.67 RF/G
1979 George Brett, D/A+ (.987/11.33) ... actual stats 8 games, 6.50 RF/G
1986 Robin Yount, A+/A+ (1.000/10.80) ... actual stats 3 games, 4.33 RF/G

Without looking at the numbers, I'd guess that there are others too. 1956 Wally Moon and 1920 Edd Roush come to mind

2000 Darin Erstad

ok so what

I thought range didn’t really matter for 1b

Posted by 7stringplayr on 11/13/2018 9:28:00 PM (view original):
I thought range didn’t really matter for 1b

Clearly you’ve never seen ozomatli’s Roger Connor. They always get like 45 “+” plays a season

Posted by 7stringplayr on 11/13/2018 9:28:00 PM (view original):
I thought range didn’t really matter for 1b

Range definitely matters for 1b... fielding (so long as it's not D- fielding) at 1b doesn't matter as much.

one of my favorites is the '04 David Segui (he of the 38.23 RRF at 1st base) . He was primarily a DH that year but did start a couple games at first base. His RF/g was 8.50 in those two starts.

Posted by 7stringplayr on 11/13/2018 9:28:00 PM (view original):
I thought range didn’t really matter for 1b

Range matters everywhere

...except probably not catcher

So would you rather have a B+/B or a B-/A- at 1B? I'm thinking the A- range is more valuable, no?

Posted by redwingscup on 11/14/2018 2:25:00 PM (view original):
one of my favorites is the '04 David Segui (he of the 38.23 RRF at 1st base) . He was primarily a DH that year but did start a couple games at first base. His RF/g was 8.50 in those two starts.

It’s a fun little quip, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “+” play from him

Posted by redcped on 11/21/2018 12:12:00 PM (view original):
So would you rather have a B+/B or a B-/A- at 1B? I'm thinking the A- range is more valuable, no?

absolutely, range is much more import.

I just looked up 1914 George Burns performance history. He's D+/A+ and his average 1B performance is 7 errors and 28 + plays.

It's good to think about this in chart form

Position___	Range Importance___	Fielding Importance
C	Low	Low
1B	High	Low
2B	High	Med
3B	High	Med
SS	Very High	Very High
OF	High	Low

Posted by ozomatli on 11/21/2018 1:57:00 PM (view original):
It's good to think about this in chart form

Position___	Range Importance___	Fielding Importance
C	Low	Low
1B	High	Low
2B	High	Med
3B	High	Med
SS	Very High	Very High
OF	High	Low

Great post ozomatli !

Bumping this because I have a some related question to all of this. It basically boils down to finding the optimal spots for 4 guys between the 3OF and 1B spots.

I have
2002 Darin Erstad @1B (A+/A+, 1.000/15.04) / @OF (A/A+, .998/3.67).
1990 Brett Butler @OF (B/A-, .986/2.56)
1994 Lance Johnson @OF (A+/A+, 1.000/3.22)
1993 Kenny Lofton @OF (C+/A, .979/2.69)

Initially I thought Erstad would play 1B since he's the only one rated there, but then I saw in Lance's performance history he has 20+ plays at 1B and 0 errors, which makes me think any of these OF would do well at 1B. So how do I pick the right combo? And should I be switching it often based on other factors like my SP and the stadium? I've seen the thread on K% not affecting +/- plays, but does type of pitcher (groundball vs flyball) factor in at all? What about park effects?

Appreciate any insight. Thanks.