If you're in a situation where you only need to recruit backcourt (PG, SG, SF) or frontcourt (PF, C) players do you still run a camp or do you go with the Assistant Search? Not sure I've ever been in this situation but am facing it with my team in Knight.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated!!

I have yet to run a camp, its probably a mistake. But I just search geographically. What's the upside to using the camp as opposed to scouting by state?

Posted by Fregoe on 2/15/2022 5:13:00 PM (view original):
I have yet to run a camp, its probably a mistake. But I just search geographically. What's the upside to using the camp as opposed to scouting by state?

Cheaper cost per level of scouting per player.

Posted by p6453 on 2/15/2022 2:39:00 PM (view original):
If you're in a situation where you only need to recruit backcourt (PG, SG, SF) or frontcourt (PF, C) players do you still run a camp or do you go with the Assistant Search? Not sure I've ever been in this situation but am facing it with my team in Knight.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated!!

I would only FSS states then have the assistant search for whatever position I needed.

I tend to still run a camp, but further scout only the back court and swing players (or front court players if that it all I need). Then focus only on Assistant Searches. If you get in a bind late in recruiting, you can still go back and look at the players who came to your camp and see if any are still available.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 2/15/2022 6:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Fregoe on 2/15/2022 5:13:00 PM (view original):
I have yet to run a camp, its probably a mistake. But I just search geographically. What's the upside to using the camp as opposed to scouting by state?

Cheaper cost per level of scouting per player.

By running your own camp, you get two levels of scouting right away. But if I run a camp or go to another nearby camp and still want to do FSS states, I look at far away states to avoid scouting some of the same players again.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 2/15/2022 6:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by p6453 on 2/15/2022 2:39:00 PM (view original):
If you're in a situation where you only need to recruit backcourt (PG, SG, SF) or frontcourt (PF, C) players do you still run a camp or do you go with the Assistant Search? Not sure I've ever been in this situation but am facing it with my team in Knight.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated!!

I would only FSS states then have the assistant search for whatever position I needed.

Thanks darnoc. That's what I was thinking as well.

The private camp is THE best tool in the game for lower level recruiting in my opinion. It's two levels at $60 total. If you private camp for 200 students and add in the FSS, you end up with 150-175 players, all nearby, at L3 for only $75 each. There's not a cheaper combination in the game. And at L3 you have enough info to recruit right there. Without even doing anymore scouting if you chose not to.

I don't prefer the camp at D1 tho because there's generally not 150-175 signable players in a 500 mile area. So I'd prefer to branch out further than 500 miles and find more talent that "appears" worthy of signing at L1 or L2, and then scouting those few players up some levels until I decide to continue or not. At lower levels, you HAVE to have the details of at least L3 before you know if you want to level up more.

I always run the private camp for 200. Every single time at D1 and D2. There is no cheaper, more efficient way to get the largest pool of players to L3\L4 (I much prefer L4). FSS next for the states within 500 miles first and then run assistant searches for the player type you need for only already scouted players. I start my assistant search at 300, then go to 400, then to 500. You may have enough money to FSS more states, assistant search, and repeat this outward scouting expansion multiple times depending on your division and scouting budget.

Yes, as Top points out, some are not even close to being worthy of being signed; However, I have found that I can scout SO much faster than using only FSS plus assistant search (no camp) and I would wager that I have the same players found without using the camp PLUS some potential diamonds in the rough because I have a larger pool of players scouted to level 3/4. Actually, using the camp, FSS, assistant scouting method almost always gets most of your pool to L4.

You can also get quite a deep pool of guards or bigs all to L4. I prefer to recruit in this manner and do it often. Yeah, I might miss a really good big if I am recruiting only guards but my needs that recruiting season simply don't fit and also most likely leads to recruiting for bigs only the following season. Give it a try, You will be glad you did.

Camp is a must imo because of the 2 levels and discounted rate, followed by FSS for states. I then do asst search for the specific positions if that's all I need that period.

Lots of good thoughts in here. Thanks guys!!

I just noticed you are at D3. I'll still run a 100 recruit private camp even with less budget.

Interesting, I tried hosting a camp as a D3 team when I first started and felt like it was a waste of money. But that was when I first started. So if I host a camp, will it automatically only bring in players who are close to my campus (I don't see any distance options)? If I'm understanding this right, it will scout each player two levels? And I can use the Scouting Service to take them an additional level?

Other more experienced owners know better than me, but I believe it's a 500 mile radius?

Yes it's 500 miles. And if you're in an area that has very few players, you won't get a lot of players in it. But it's still more than worth doing it because you only get charged for the players that are, and it's still cheap. You will then have to continue on doing something else for scouting. Which is fine. But in the described situation, the camp didn't "hurt" you. It just wasn't as powerful because of your location.

Also, to snewell's point..... he's not "wrong". It just depends on your preference. What he stated IS much faster. But not necessarily more efficient. You can get your scouting done in a matter of minutes if time is an issue. But for efficiency, what's the point of having a giant pool of nearby players, no more budget, but not have any interest in almost all of the players when it boils down to it? Sifting thru trash.

I just happen to value "more players in my pool that i might actually sign", more than i value the speed of getting my scouting done. I literally spend 0 time scouting until recruiting is actually in session. And instead of having lots of players to L4 that are 600 miles away and no budget left, I end up with less players at L4, much further out (1000 miles to potentially the other end of the country), and scouting budget left to use during recruiting. But ALL are likely worthy of a ship, AND within my reach as far as talent.

It's just a decision difference, and fine investment difference